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by Secret Alias
Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published
Replies: 40
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Re: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published

I think the same thing can be argued on behalf of Against Marcion 19. Luke 8 reads: His disciples asked him what this parable meant. 10 He said, “The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, “‘though seeing, they may not see; t...
by Secret Alias
Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published
Replies: 40
Views: 23340

Re: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published

Luke 4:26 Yet Elijah was not sent to any of them, but to a widow in Zarephath in the region of Sidon. 27 And there were many in Israel with leprosy in the time of Elisha the prophet, yet not one of them was cleansed—only Naaman the Syrian.” Given that the reference to Naaman the Syrian appears in c...
by Secret Alias
Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published
Replies: 40
Views: 23340

Re: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published

The question at the beginning of Galatians and Against Marcion's 'coverage' of the Marcionite text is whether or not the author is attesting to a common 'Jerusalem visit' by Paul to the pillars of the community or whether or not he was originally recounting Acts and arguing that a smaller Galatians ...
by Secret Alias
Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published
Replies: 40
Views: 23340

Re: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published

Now before we go any further we have to note two things: 1. Tertullian explicitly connects 3.14 to 3.26 in the 'true text' 2. there is an unmistakable huge gap between 3:15 and what follows it which explains the 'Marcion's sponge' statement in chapter 3 - Holmes's footnote "If I may be allwed t...
by Secret Alias
Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published
Replies: 40
Views: 23340

Re: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published

As we follow the argument a little further we start to see that a massive effort was made to 'refashion' Gal 4 as entirely taken literally: "But when the fulness of time was come, God sent forth His Son" ----the God, of course, who is the Lord of that very succession of times which constit...
by Secret Alias
Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published
Replies: 40
Views: 23340

Re: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published

Now we have to decide where 'Marcion's sponge' erased material: "But," says he, "I speak after the manner of men: when we were children, we were placed in bondage under the elements of the world." This, however, was not said "after the manner of men." For there is no fi...
by Secret Alias
Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published
Replies: 40
Views: 23340

Re: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published

For what it is worth Clement cites the section as: "Before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed, so that the law became our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith; but after that faith is come, we are...
by Secret Alias
Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published
Replies: 40
Views: 23340

Re: Another Argument that Against Marcion Existed in a Period Before the Gospel of Luke Was Published

So let's try to reconstruct which passages are actually explicitly cited in Book 5: a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith [5.3.8] in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, becaus...