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- Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:43 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Acts as fiction by Richard Carrier
- Replies: 135
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Re: Acts as fiction by Richard Carrier
Sorry, but I must have missed that " settled scholarship " memo. So, if it is not too much trouble, please explain why Luke does not give details about epic events like, the murder of James the Just, the destruction of the temple, or the death of Paul and Peter, you know, major historical...
- Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:30 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Acts as fiction by Richard Carrier
- Replies: 135
- Views: 86717
Re: the fiction of Richard Carrier
There is not one iota of real evidence that another gospel preceded Luke. While I obviously object to your misuse of the proemium and definitely disagree that Carrier would have to re-establish the generally accepted gospel chronology (outside of fundamentalist or radical critic circles), this sent...
- Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:19 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Acts as fiction by Richard Carrier
- Replies: 135
- Views: 86717
Re: the fiction of Richard Carrier
Is it really sensible that Acts would be written after 70 AD and leave out events like the death of James, Paul and Peter, or the destruction of the Temple? Given that Luke takes some of his topics from Josephus and makes it clear in his proemium that he is removed two to three generations from wha...
- Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:26 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Acts as fiction by Richard Carrier
- Replies: 135
- Views: 86717
Re: the fiction of Richard Carrier
First, I would just like to get a general outline of Carrier's timeline. Carrier follows the timeline that is accepted by the majority of NT scholars. He doesn't use any freakishly early or late datings. So how does he handle the Pauline references to Luke? Including Paul's reference to the scriptu...
- Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:52 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Acts as fiction by Richard Carrier
- Replies: 135
- Views: 86717
Re: Acts as fiction by Richard Carrier
Acts is seen as historical because it's the only text NT scholars can use to spin history from. Even people like Peter Pilhofer, who dates the text around 115 and sees it as the mixture of political text in the beginning and some more genuine legends in the last parts, uses this somewhat helpless de...
- Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:59 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is the Rejection of Jewish Origin for Xristianity = Laziness
- Replies: 195
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Re: Is the Rejection of Jewish Origin for Xristianity = Lazi
So what's the reason people are eating his flesh and drinking his blood? Why did the advent of an ancient Woody Allen lead to salvation for humanity? So how does the flesh and blood fit your fiery Ieshu? And don't ask me why God hat to sacrifice himself to himself to save humanity. I've read many e...
- Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is the Rejection of Jewish Origin for Xristianity = Laziness
- Replies: 195
- Views: 113716
Re: Is the Rejection of Jewish Origin for Xristianity = Lazi
Good question, and I think the answer is mixed. In Ptolemaic times, even Jerusalem was mostly hellenized.outhouse wrote:You think this applies during this period?Stephan Huller wrote:But Judaism is an insular cultural for better or worse.
- Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:46 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is the Rejection of Jewish Origin for Xristianity = Laziness
- Replies: 195
- Views: 113716
Re: Is the Rejection of Jewish Origin for Xristianity = Lazi
@Stephan:
If it's so obvious as you say and can only be missed by laziness, why did nobody else mention the similarity so far?
If it's so obvious as you say and can only be missed by laziness, why did nobody else mention the similarity so far?
- Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:17 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is the Rejection of Jewish Origin for Xristianity = Laziness
- Replies: 195
- Views: 113716
Re: Is the Rejection of Jewish Origin for Xristianity = Lazi
I don't get the irony. The Pentateuch was written before there was a temple. Ezekiel was written at the start of the temple in Jerusalem. Is it hard to determine which came first? I don't understand. Yes, Ezekiel is later. Nevertheless he 1. describes the "glory of God" in detail, 2. whic...
- Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:05 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is the Rejection of Jewish Origin for Xristianity = Laziness
- Replies: 195
- Views: 113716
Re: Is the Rejection of Jewish Origin for Xristianity = Lazi
He uses the exact same words as the Pentateuch, "glory of God", Yeah that's because he was borrowing terminology. and it's clear that this cannot be God, as you are not allowed to make any image of God. And he describes a very clear image of the "glory of God". Yes but there has...