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by gmx
Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Refining Eusebius's claims about the Flavian Testimony
Replies: 24
Views: 3475

Re: Refining Eusebius's claims about the Flavian Testimony

If Eusebius is the corrupter of the Testimonium, to enable himself to quote his own corruption for apologetic purposes, what number and geographic distribution of manuscripts would he have needed to corrupt, and how could he be confident that the manuscript record would eliminate the transmission c...
by gmx
Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Refining Eusebius's claims about the Flavian Testimony
Replies: 24
Views: 3475

Re: Refining Eusebius's claims about the Flavian Testimony

If Eusebius is the corrupter of the Testimonium, to enable himself to quote his own corruption for apologetic purposes, what number and geographic distribution of manuscripts would he have needed to corrupt, and how could he be confident that the manuscript record would eliminate the transmission ch...
by gmx
Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Matthean Posteriority Hypothesis
Replies: 130
Views: 20113

Re: The Matthean Posteriority Hypothesis

It is several years since I read Farmer's work on Matthean priority. Yes this post is about Matthean posteriority yet I find It telling that one can make a reasonable justification for almost any Gospel development dependency graph imaginable In my view, the question of dependency won't be answered ...
by gmx
Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The case for Post First War Paul?
Replies: 66
Views: 19234

Re: The case for Post First War Paul?

The documentary pedigree of Christian origins is highly consistent, from the earliest fragments of papyri, to the earliest complete manuscripts, to the present day. Not sure what is meant by "highly consistent" in this context. There are many diverse texts. Simply that the NT as we know i...
by gmx
Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The case for Post First War Paul?
Replies: 66
Views: 19234

Re: The case for Post First War Paul?

IIUC you are dubious about the integrity of our present text of 1 Clement. However, I was not claiming that 1 Clement provides conclusive evidence of early knowledge of Paul, my point was that it (and other works) provides enough prima facie evidence of early knowledge of Paul to counter your conce...
by gmx
Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: dating the gospels?
Replies: 43
Views: 20867

Re: dating the gospels?

What you wrote here are unevidenced assertions. Again you need to decide when gMatthew was written: before Justin or by Irenaeus around 180. Cordially, Bernard We have no extant manuscripts of hypothesized predecessors to Matthew's gospel. We have extant papyri witnesses to Matthew's gospel dated t...
by gmx
Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The big question for me...
Replies: 25
Views: 4888

Re: The big question for me...

ah i get what you mean but what if individual churches produced and used these writings, separated in location from others. churches that would later be brought together under a more centralised rule. I strongly doubt that to be the case. Firstly, the term "church" is problematic. I don't...
by gmx
Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: My own remarks on Secret Mark
Replies: 37
Views: 6489

Re: My own remarks on Secret Mark

Everyone's got a take. Is it a “take”? I thought it was four issues worth noting: 1. It deliberately draws attention to the subject it says it wants silenced. 2. It uses honesty when lying would have been safer. 3. It blatantly reveals contents it itself describes as hidden and guarded. 4. It descr...
by gmx
Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Papias exist?
Replies: 79
Views: 67208

Re: Did Papias exist?

The suggestion that discourses of Papias were extant in the middle ages should possibly be reckoned with in this thread. That was discussed in this thread: http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4115&hilit=zahn+papias And courtesy of Ben, this link: http://hypotyposeis.org/weblog...
by gmx
Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Clement
Replies: 14
Views: 16946

Re: 1 Clement

This shows at the very least that someone in the second century wanted to believe that the Roman church had preeminence in the first century. And that's quite incredible. We don't know whether Justin Martyr had access to the Paulina, an "orthodox" canon did not exist until 180 AD (?), yet...