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The first usage by Josephus of both Samuel/Kings and Chronicles is already posted in another thread (1 Samuel 31.1-13 = 1 Chronicles 10.1-14 = Antiquities 6.14.7-9 §368-378). This thread picks up at that point. The translation for Josephus is Whiston; the translation for Samuel/Kings and Chronicles ...

It's somewhat off track because it's not Mark, but Acts 20 is another possible example of the influence of Homer in Judeo-Christian writings (though it has a possible OT parallel). What interests me here is that the Homeric connection would apparently at least have something to do with, if not expl...

to Ben, The Greek can also mean "a great gale of wind". If you want to keep your "mighty storm" you have to add up "of wind" as "a mighty storm of wind". That is absolutely fine with me. "mighty storm" is perfectly good English, but that does not me...

You are confusing between "call" and "describe". "Mark" called that weather event "great gale of wind". "Mark" described that weather event as the (top) of waves filling up with water a low-lying row boat (which would make that weather event just a ...

to Ben, Your definitions include "great". I quoted "great gale of wind" from the RSV. So I do not see where there is disagreement. There is disagreement exactly where you stated, and I quote: "Mark" did not describe the storm as a mighty one.... That was incorrect, and...

to Ben, Nothing at all. I am just saying that Mark describes the storm as a mighty one, whereas your wording tended to downplay its size (a "mere squall"). "Mark" did not describe the storm as a mighty one, because it was only sending water into a low-lying row boat. He called i...

to Ben, What makes you think that λαῖλαψ μεγάλη ἀνέμου describes a "mere squall"? LSJ: λαῖλαψ , α^πος, ἡ, A. furious storm, hurricane, “βαῖνον ἐρεμνῇ λαίλαπι ἶσοι” Il.12.375; “κελαινῇ λ. ἶσος” 11.747; “ἄνεμος σὺν λαίλαπι πολλῇ” 17.57; “Ζέφυρος βαθείῃ λ. τύπτων” 11.306; “Ζέφυρος μεγάλῃ σὺν...

arnoldo wrote:Have you considered that Egyptian mythology also has an instance of the sea being calmed?

Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection By D. M. Murdock, Acharya S

Calming seas is the kind of thing that deities do (often/usually as answers to prayer).

to Ben, My view of Mark's genre in no way requires Mark (or any tradents before or after him) to have drawn on the scriptures for stories or story ideas. It allows such a thing, but does not require it. But where the parallels are obvious and just jump off the page at me, I have to pay attention. I...

to Ben, I still do not understand your reluctance to see Mark (or other authors) drawing upon sacred texts for their inspiration in writing stories about Jesus. I understand your insistence to see "Mark" drawing upon sacred texts for inventing complete stories about Jesus, when the eviden...