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by Ken Olson
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: New book by Dennis MacDonald
Replies: 28
Views: 783

Re: New book by Dennis MacDonald

Okay, then this answer is not for you I think that I agree with this your answer, i.e. that Jesus confirms that he is the Jewish Messiah because he has done what Isaiah says that the Messiah has to do. Even so, my point is that John the Baptist has doubted , even only for an instant, about the Jesu...
by Ken Olson
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: New book by Dennis MacDonald
Replies: 28
Views: 783

Re: New book by Dennis MacDonald

s) argue for the priority of Marcion to the Synoptic Gospels is that you seem to start with your conclusion and reason from there. I fear that the your answer is so elusive about the real question because you start from the wrong assumption (accused by me of being apologetical in character) that th...
by Ken Olson
Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: New book by Dennis MacDonald
Replies: 28
Views: 783

Re: New book by Dennis MacDonald

(not necessarily Luke?) well, in Luke's infancy story you have the embryon of John the Baptist who recognizes telepatically the embryon of Jesus the Messiah. Evidently the embryon of John the Baptist was more intelligent than the adult (and doubting ) John the Baptist. Moral of the fable: where the...
by Ken Olson
Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
Replies: 107
Views: 2380

Re: Was Josephus a Christian?

I think what the rabbis did was tone down the meaning of something they knew was being interpreted messianically by anti-Roman Jews ("mighty one"), in order to save Judaism in the face of reality. But "mighty one" still can have that sense, as the rabbis surely knew (as per Jer....
by Ken Olson
Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
Replies: 107
Views: 2380

Re: Was Josephus a Christian?

I think it is a mistake to confuse "a Messiah figure" with "the Messiah". I think that Jews and some Christians believed that God might appoint anyone who is useful or good for His purpose. Cyrus the Great was one. Another was Alexander the Great, as per Josephus' Antiquities, 8...
by Ken Olson
Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
Replies: 107
Views: 2380

Re: Was Josephus a Christian?

I think what the rabbis did was tone down the meaning of something they knew was being interpreted messianically by anti-Roman Jews ("mighty one"), in order to save Judaism in the face of reality. But "mighty one" still can have that sense, as the rabbis surely knew (as per Jer....
by Ken Olson
Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
Replies: 107
Views: 2380

Re: Was Josephus a Christian?

I think what the rabbis did was tone down the meaning of something they knew was being interpreted messianically by anti-Roman Jews ("mighty one"), in order to save Judaism in the face of reality. But "mighty one" still can have that sense, as the rabbis surely knew (as per Jer....
by Ken Olson
Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
Replies: 107
Views: 2380

Re: Was Josephus a Christian?

This is interesting for two closely related reasons. First, like Josephus, Yoḥanan ben Zakkai predicts that Vespasian will become king (emperor). There is no suggestion that he acknowledged Vespasian as the Messiah. Second, he finds scriptural support for his claim in Isaiah 10.34, quoted as 'And t...
by Ken Olson
Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: New book by Dennis MacDonald
Replies: 28
Views: 783

Re: New book by Dennis MacDonald

Luke's use of Matthew personally, if there is something I would assume under any Gospel X priority, is that Matthew follows Luke and not vice versa. Bruno Bauer has given a good example of this just talking about Luke 7:18 (being in its natural place in Luke, while being terribly dislocated in Matt...
by Ken Olson
Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Socrates never existed: analogies with Jesus
Replies: 12
Views: 410

Re: Socrates never existed: analogies with Jesus

three very good witnesses who were contemporaries what if I could find a valid counter-example of a mere literary archetype that is recognized as such even if "witnessed" by contemporaries ? If you could find an example of a fictional person whom three people claim to have met (and I'm su...