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- Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:11 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 662
Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
I recently paid £21 for this article - of just 6 pages. I had thought I was getting the three articles for this price. The other two articles being by Jason Beduhn and Judith Lieu. Oof. :shock: Indeed.... I'll just quote this - indicating, perhaps, where Klinghardt suspects where the priority of th...
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:42 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 662
Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
I recently paid £21 for this article - of just 6 pages. I had thought I was getting the three articles for this price. The other two articles being by Jason Beduhn and Judith Lieu. Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence? MATTHIAS KLINGHARDT If the Marcionite Gospel is seen a...
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:46 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: antithesis-y bits of the gospel
- Replies: 20
- Views: 339
Re: antithesis-y bits of the gospel
I have changed my positions many times. I only count publication by an academic journal or publisher as representing my actual opinion and even then these could change in light of new evidence. The forum is filled with Japanese soldiers inflexibly marching on long after the war was lost. I am not o...
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:06 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: antithesis-y bits of the gospel
- Replies: 20
- Views: 339
Re: antithesis-y bits of the gospel
*chuckle* Secret Alias has just been outed! Everything is starting to make more sense now lol Nothing new here.... Stephan Happy Huller has been on the forum since 2013. A number of people, Stephan, as well as myself, moved here when FRDB closed down. All one wants from Stephan is to put his cards ...
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:40 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: antithesis-y bits of the gospel
- Replies: 20
- Views: 339
Re: The Antitheses and the origin of Luke
It's Matthew chapter 5. What is Matthew, chapter 5? P.S. I'm still trying to get my arms around exactly what you believe re the whole Marcion thing. And the biggest obstacle is that you believe *so much* about Marcion :-) that any individual post you make must needs be elliptical. Sometimes to the ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:00 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Were Marcionites keepers of the original Christian faith?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 566
Re: Were Marcionites keepers of the original Christian faith?
I'm also thinking of the other named teachers we have, such as Valentinus or Basilides. I'm thinking of those that might be described as against Judaification, not just the Judaification ones. I'm thinking of the non-orthodox ones, not just the orthodox ones. As far as I can tell, a belief that Jes...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:07 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
- Replies: 80
- Views: 1573
Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
The purpose of this thread is not to defend my ideas above, though I'm happy to do so. It's to get people's own ideas around what Marcion means for early Christianity. SPECULATION WELCOMED! I'm interested in speculative ideas. Posts don't have to be the strong, respectful and well-thought out argum...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:49 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Celsus thought that Jesus was one of the victims of Alexander Ianneus
- Replies: 9
- Views: 257
Re: Celsus thought that Jesus was one of the victims of Alexander Ianneus
George Wells. As I have said, my concern in this book is with the gospels rather than with the early epistles. But the significance of the enormous difference in what is said of Jesus in these two sets of documents should not pass unnoticed; and if in fact two different personages are being synthesi...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:26 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcion saute
- Replies: 34
- Views: 749
Re: Marcion saute
As a telecommunications engineer without a humanities education, I have some problems with expressing my thoughts in humanistic terms. As a marketer by practice, I look for analogies and benchmarks. For me, the gospels are as much a product as The Story of Paul and Thecla or Calvin and Hobbes. Yep,...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:04 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Celsus thought that Jesus was one of the victims of Alexander Ianneus
- Replies: 9
- Views: 257
Re: Celsus thought that Jesus was one of the victims of Alexander Ianneus
Jesus was famous to have been crucified. Janneus was famous to have crucified. Therefore the Jews thought that Janneus crucified Jesus. The Toledot Yeshu has it's Yeshu figure born under Jannaeus but his death, execution, is under Queen Helene. An online version of the Toledot Yeshu makes no mentio...