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- Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:49 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
- Replies: 30
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Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
The argument is not that verse 4:15 is designed to explain completely the verse 4:14. The argument is that the explicit epitet of 'physician' requires an equally explicit exorcism story before the episode of Nazareth. It can't require an implicit hearsay about previous exorcisms, because even the na...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:35 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The parable of wineskins is afterall evidence that *Ev precedes Luke
- Replies: 0
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The parable of wineskins is afterall evidence that *Ev precedes Luke
And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; or else the new wine will burst the wineskins and be spilled, and the wineskins will be ruined. But new wine must be put into new wineskins, and both are preserved. And no one, having drunk old wine, immediately desires new; for he says, 'The old is bett...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:32 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
- Replies: 30
- Views: 604
Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Also, Jesus' claim that the people will doubtless say 'Physician, heal thyself" is a presupposition that there is something wrong with Jesus, which in all likelihood is that he is possessed by a spirit, which he is. Very easy confutation: verse 4:14-16 explains enough well the part ' heal hims...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:49 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: From Bar-Rabbas to Bar-Abbas: how the follower of a rabbi was transformed in the Marcionite Jesus
- Replies: 2
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Re: From Bar-Rabbas to Bar-Abbas: how the follower of a rabbi was transformed in the Marcionite Jesus
It is curious that the rival (Jesus) " disciple of the rabbi Jesus b. Perahiah" ("bar Rabbas", "bar Jesus") was reduced by Acts to be "an attendant of the proconsul, Sergius Paulus ". A misunderstanding of the fact that the true Jesus hallucinated by Paul live...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:39 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: From Bar-Rabbas to Bar-Abbas: how the follower of a rabbi was transformed in the Marcionite Jesus
- Replies: 2
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Re: From Bar-Rabbas to Bar-Abbas: how the follower of a rabbi was transformed in the Marcionite Jesus
Another trace of the same embarrassment for the confusion between a remote Jesus of the distant past and a recent (Gospel) Jesus: "Bar Jesus" appears in Acts 13:6–7: “They traveled through the whole island until they came to Paphos. There they met a Jewish sorcerer and false prophet named ...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:23 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: From Bar-Rabbas to Bar-Abbas: how the follower of a rabbi was transformed in the Marcionite Jesus
- Replies: 2
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From Bar-Rabbas to Bar-Abbas: how the follower of a rabbi was transformed in the Marcionite Jesus
The best place to be seen where the embarrassment for a confusion is evident is the Barabbas episode. It is obvious to me that the Barabbas episode reflected the measure taken to avoid the confusion between the Jesus of the Judaizers ("Jesus called Christ") and the marcionite Jesus ("...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:50 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
- Replies: 30
- Views: 604
Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
In my view: Marcion was merely the top of the iceberg of the phenomenon called anti-demiurgism, the idea that YHWH is an evil deity, unable to make good even when considered "just". The fact that *Ev precedes Luke, Matthew and even Mark means that the label of Jewish-Christian doesn't dese...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:22 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Celsus thought that Jesus was one of the victims of Alexander Ianneus
- Replies: 9
- Views: 226
Re: Celsus thought that Jesus was one of the victims of Alexander Ianneus
He doesn't use the plural to describe the group of people who witnessed the presumed miracle. He uses the plural to describe the people who have been punished. the Celsus' assumption is that such group were the 800 Pharisees crucified by Alexander Janneus, since in the Gospels there is none trace o...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:29 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
- Replies: 95
- Views: 2315
Re: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
Dr Carrier's answer via mail: That’s a very old exchange, wildly obsolete now. There isn’t enough to hang any hat on, unfortunately. Even at best it is inconclusive what he means; and at worst, means why Loisy says: they want to find it written in the scriptures and don’t, he says it’s there, they t...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:18 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Celsus thought that Jesus was one of the victims of Alexander Ianneus
- Replies: 9
- Views: 226
Re: Celsus thought that Jesus was one of the victims of Alexander Ianneus
In which case Celsus is referring to John the Baptist, probably using the Gospel of John: which cannot explain why Celsus uses the plural to describe the group of the person who witnessed the presumed miracle: the statement of another of those individuals who have been punished along with you You c...