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by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
Replies: 103
Views: 827

Re: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"

Not authentically dated to 18th-century is what he concluded.
Rather, later, he concluded.
Misrepresenting that is no contribution to learning.
But deflection.
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
Replies: 103
Views: 827

Re: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"

I could review his report, with some pros and cons,
but, if one does not first allow that he knows Greek paleography dating
better than anyone here
better, likely, than anyone else alive today
that's a deflection.
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
Replies: 103
Views: 827

Re: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"

The question shows a lack of understanding of the OP. The main, and widely-recognized, paleographic matter is dating! Not, in this one matter, whodunnit. (Did person X have an accomplice, blah, blah, blah--different question.) If A. T. was speculating about some different matters--maybe so--that is ...
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
Replies: 103
Views: 827

Re: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"

Why attempt to deflect? Many readers--even you S. A.!, previously and repeatedly!-- know that A. T. has extraordinary expertise in Greek paleography. Paleography has to do with dating handwriting. Graphologists address a different subject, whether well or not. He did that dating, in detail, writing,...
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
Replies: 103
Views: 827

Re: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"

Agamemnon Tselikas wrote that "...it is an imitation of an older script."

His full report report is available here:
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/dai ... is-report/
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"
Replies: 103
Views: 827

Distinguishing some questions about the "Letter to Theodore"

There are various definitions of forgery, fake, fraud, hoax, falsification and so on, and there may have been occasional confusion about some of these. For example, the question (A) of whether Clement originally wrote the "Letter to Theodore" is a different question than (B) when the handw...
by StephenGoranson
Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 200
Views: 1761

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

Peter, I already mentioned the publication of such a memory--if it existed--could have been of any date previous to his vaguely-stated remark. You can say not yet "tracked down the origin." I can say maybe his memory was faulty. I welcome you or any other yet-additional people search for s...
by StephenGoranson
Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 200
Views: 1761

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

I am not shutting down the question, Peter.
Look for such a mention. Feel free. By all means.
What I did write was that in my opinion finding such is unlikely because many people for many years have looked for it, didn't find that, and that such likely-suspect publications are limited.
by StephenGoranson
Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 200
Views: 1761

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

What I mean by "no such thing" is the lack of any cited published mention of a 16th- or 17th-century witness* to the "Letter to Theodore" and/or "Secret Mark."

*or earlier [added]