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by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 101
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Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

I was wrong about Seraphim's time at Mar Saba. On April 21, 1932, he was received as a novice-monk. After his first all-night vigil, he returned to his cell to rest; however his Elder Panteleimon (Tsampiras) followed him and suggested that he ought to be praying not sleeping. In the following years,...
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 101
Views: 690

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

The question is whether they would have remembered a coverless Latin book with 18th century Greek handwriting in the blank back pages. Or better yet could Seraphim have accepted that such a distinctive text which was never there before suddenly appeared there almost 20 years after he arrived at Mar ...
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 101
Views: 690

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

Sorry referenced this on Jacob Berman's podcast. About the library. They knew the books in their library. Did they know all of them? But if Morton Smith referenced or drew attention to a book without a cover that they had never seen before would they have fought to keep that coverless book? I don't ...
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 101
Views: 690

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

I think Kallistos also told Quesnell the book was in the library. Can't prove it. But maybe I will share with you the evidence next time.
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 101
Views: 690

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

Morton Smith catalogued 489 books. Even 489 books. I have more than 500 books in my library. I have an idea what's in my library or what was in my library. And I have work, children, wives, TV, Youtube, Tiktok, Facebook, Instagram and countless other distractions. I would surely be surprised by a bo...
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 101
Views: 690

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

If you accept that the list of books is limit of books in the library of Mar Saba at the time Morton Smith visited there are only 100 books on that list. So let's take this one step at a time. Smith, Morton. "Hellenika Cheirographa en tei Monei tou Hagiou Sabba,” Nea Sion 52 (1960), 110–125. ht...
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 101
Views: 690

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

I keep turning this over in my head. Over and over again. And I come up with is. Either (a) they were fucking retarded or (b) they knew the book.
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 101
Views: 690

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

Ok. Let's think about this. 1. Do we agree that Smith at least pretended to the monks that he discovered something? 2. We know Smith sent clippings to the Jerusalem Patriarchate and published in the New Zion magazine run by the Greek Orthodox Church. The point is you're telling me no one at Mar Saba...
by Secret Alias
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 101
Views: 690

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

Why would Seraphim have cared so much about moving a book out of the library if he felt it didn't belong in the library in the first place and there were only 100 books? He must have thought the book belonged in the library in 1976, and shortly after the discovery in 1958.