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- Sun Sep 11, 2022 4:27 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is there life "in the flesh" after "you have crucified the flesh"? Gal 5:24
- Replies: 15
- Views: 1304
Re: Is there life "in the flesh" after "you have crucified the flesh"? Gal 5:24
In a sense, the flesh of "those of Christ" has become Christ's flesh . It sounds strange, and I have not seen this claim made in any modern commentary, but Jerome's Commentary on Galatians (which is a mixed bag of quotations from various sources, mostly without citations of theses sources...
- Sat Sep 10, 2022 2:57 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is there life "in the flesh" after "you have crucified the flesh"? Gal 5:24
- Replies: 15
- Views: 1304
Re: Is there life "in the flesh" after "you have crucified the flesh"? Gal 5:24
My thesis is that in Galatians, there is life in the "flesh" after "you have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires", but it is no longer the old ego that is master; rather, the flesh is Christ's flesh . That sounds interesting, but I'm not sure what you mean. We see ...
- Wed Sep 07, 2022 1:27 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: David Oliver Smith's Analysis of the Jesus Myth
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1773
Re: David Oliver Smith's Analysis of the Jesus Myth
The Dead Sea Scrolls describe an expelled traitor to the community and Professor Robert Eisenman has theorized that this expelled traitor is the apostle Paul [ James the Brother of Jesus , p.259] . Among his many arguments in support of this conclusion, Eisenman points out that the scrolls call thi...
- Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:55 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: David Oliver Smith's Analysis of the Jesus Myth
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1773
Re: David Oliver Smith's Analysis of the Jesus Myth
If you have an account on Amazon, you can read the first chapter or so, which I've done. Looks interesting! He sees Paul, James and Peter as members of Qumran, with James and Peter believing in a celestiall Messiah who wasn't crucified, while Paul came to believe through revelations that the celesti...
- Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:50 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Passages that show Paul thought Jesus was pre-existent?
- Replies: 57
- Views: 4501
Re: Passages that show Paul thought Jesus was pre-existent?
Are there passages in 1 Enoch which I might have missed? 1 Enoch 62 7 For from the beginning the Son of Man was hidden, And the Most High preserved him in the presence of His might, And revealed him to the elect. Thanks Sinouhe, I'll have a look at that. It's a passage Dunn doesn't refer to AFAICS....
- Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:34 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Only paradigmatic parallelism may explain the birth of a pre-existent Jesus in Paul
- Replies: 4
- Views: 422
Re: Only paradigmatic parallelism may explain the birth of a pre-existent Jesus in Paul
McGrath assumes a pre-existence and a birth for Jesus in Paul.The presence of two things so in contradiction between them... They are only contradictions if the start of the person's existence was at birth. But if the person pre-existed, then was born as a baby, how is that a contradiction? This is...
- Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:13 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Passages that show Paul thought Jesus was pre-existent?
- Replies: 57
- Views: 4501
Re: Passages that show Paul thought Jesus was pre-existent?
Dunn seems to ignore or to forget that the Messiah of the parables of Enoch is also pre-existent. In fact, most of the characteristics of Paul's Messiah are shared with the Messiah of the parables. Even his eschatological role on the day of judgment is very similar to that of the messiah of the par...
- Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:58 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What was Paul's primary lesson he wanted people to learn
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1879
Re: What was Paul's primary lesson he wanted people to learn
"Send money" I wish that more people studying Christian origins from outside the box were taking this approach. Paul can be compared to Yogi Bhajan, who used distorted and invented Sikh teachings in order to build a fortune by preaching to people who were largely unfamiliar with Sikhism a...
- Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:32 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: A classification of scholars according to their view on the Earliest Gospel
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1575
Re: A classification of scholars according to their view on the Earliest Gospel
Doherty is a proponent of Q. He believes that the content in Q was developed from the activities and sayings of a Jewish "kingdom of God" preaching "Q community". The following is from my on-line review of Doherty's "Jesus: Neither God Nor Man", though it is no longer o...
- Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:22 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Passages that show Paul thought Jesus was pre-existent?
- Replies: 57
- Views: 4501
Re: Passages that show Paul thought Jesus was pre-existent?
From pp.124-5 of Waddell: James Dunn laments oversimplifying analysis of ascriptions of preexistence to the messiah figure in LP [the Letters of Paul]. Dunn writes: Paul does have a conception of the preexistent Christ. But it is the pre-existence of Wisdom now identified by and as Christ. It is th...