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by Thor
Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?
Replies: 17
Views: 21583

Re: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?

Giuseppe wrote:Of course I'm supposing the priority of the marcionite Evangelion here.

Therefore not ''insertions'' in a previous hypothetical gMark o gLuke, but only different gospels based on a previous heretical gospel.
So the Marcionitte Evangelion not only pre-dated gLuke, but also gMark?
by Thor
Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?
Replies: 17
Views: 21583

Re: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?

It would be more expected, in my opinion, this sequence: Mark 5:7 ---> Mark 5:6 and not viceversa. It would be more expected, in my opinion, that in a original version of that story, the possessed man said those words of awe at the first sight of Jesus, not following (in a cause-effect link) his ex...
by Thor
Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?
Replies: 17
Views: 21583

Re: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?

But the proto-catholic Luke inserted the first half of next verse Luke 8:29 (not attested in Evangelion ) because he had every reason to point out that he was not the man to be frightened, but the demon that possessed him. Hence the tone oddly apologetic, defensive , of the verse 8:29. Mark 5:6 He ...
by Thor
Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?
Replies: 17
Views: 21583

Re: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?

Yes, torture is an acceptable translation of βασανίζω . What I meant was in relation to your citation/quotation of Luke 8:28. Where did you get it from? Are you citing a source or yourself? This: Luke 8 28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out and fell at his feet, shouting at the top of his voice, “What...
by Thor
Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?
Replies: 17
Views: 21583

Re: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?

Giuseppe wrote:Luke 8
28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out and fell at his feet, shouting at the top of his voice, “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you, don’t torture me!
Does it say torture?
by Thor
Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:03 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Is anyone here good at Hebrew?
Replies: 8
Views: 9865

Re: Is anyone here good at Hebrew?

The contradictions in stories about gods and miracles are somewhat obvious in themselves. What is most remarkable in my opinion are the striking similarities between this story and Josephus description of Jewish victory against Rome and Cestius Gallus army at Beth-Horon.
by Thor
Sun May 10, 2015 4:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel of Mark and Propp's Morphology
Replies: 40
Views: 19499

Re: Gospel of Mark and Propp's Morphology

Although there is a kind of structure to our stories, there is always the danger of over-interpreting them. The change form oral to written transmission removed the dynamic adaptation to context of time and place. I am not sure how many people know the real influence behind what we acknowledge as gr...
by Thor
Sat May 09, 2015 12:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel of Mark and Propp's Morphology
Replies: 40
Views: 19499

Re: Gospel of Mark and Propp's Morphology

I am not sure Neil actually meant "began" as grammatical error or something in that sense. But as a sarcastic comment on how the disturbance in the temple must have a function to be there. That is, the function you see no reason to be there. Where does it say Jesus cleared the temple square in gMark...
by Thor
Sat May 09, 2015 5:23 am
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: Meshing archaeological and literary sources
Replies: 7
Views: 13225

Re: Meshing archaeological and literary sources

Clive wrote:And why is it a founder of Rome gets to have all sorts of questions asked about him, but an only begotten son of a god doesn't?
Well... To be fair the founder of the Roman Empire was also claimed to be the begotten son of god.
by Thor
Thu May 07, 2015 5:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Thou art Peter and upon this rock
Replies: 37
Views: 13898

Re: Thou art Peter and upon this rock

Archeology is a useful supporting statement on historical accuracy. And archeology in relation to narrative of the bible is undisputed when it comes to absence of evidence. I find the stories about some archeologist who discovered some wood on some mountain and proclaim discovery of fabled Arc. not ...