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- Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:49 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
- Views: 234146
Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
What's wrong with simply working with the historical data and ignoring the question entirely? Nothing wrong, but do not pretend this kind of work is going to cover the very origins of Christianity. There will be a big blank at the beginning, and using a metaphor, boarding the train well after it st...
- Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:41 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
- Views: 234146
Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
to Neil, ... mythicism versus historicism shit. That does not show you are open-minded. You put "shit" on only one side. Cordially, Bernard Omg, you are the paranoid one, aren't you. Let me try again: historicism versus mythicism shit the christ myth shit discussion the shit preoccupation...
- Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:26 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
- Views: 234146
Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
to Neil, You were clearly saying, and the examples you gave supported your claim, that the criterion of embarrassment (alone) was sufficient grounds for asserting certain details are actually historical. Yes, but you need plausibility also, and these details (or important items) fits well in a reco...
- Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:15 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
- Views: 234146
Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
I don't think you recognize your Freudian slip by dropping this line in there, Bernard. Anyone would suspect that you have made up your mind before the research begins that you must have a central role for the historical Jesus in any reconstruction. That's not kosher. That's not how historical inqu...
- Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:05 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
- Views: 234146
Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
What I said was that the types of questions we ask need to be determined by the nature of the data we are dealing with. And I disagreed. More affirmatively, the nature of the data we are dealing with determines something else - the confidence we will have in each of the seriously possible answers t...
- Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:24 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
- Views: 234146
Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Neil if they are living up to their professional ideals, Your ideals for their profession, Neil. Nonsense. Why do you say stuff like that? What's your beef with me? I get the impression you don't know anything about the study of history as discussed among historians themselves. Maybe you recoil at ...
- Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:57 am
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: Were the ancient Jews nomads?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 22299
Re: Were the ancient Jews nomads?
Archaeological evidence confirms that there was no Israelite invasion of Canaan. The story is myth.
- Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:53 am
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: How Many Mythicists Identify With the White Right and Why?
- Replies: 40
- Views: 76802
Re: How Many Mythicists Identify With the White Right and Why?
I wouldn't take John T's comment seriously. He is joking, no doubt.
- Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:47 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
- Views: 234146
Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
There is no sliding scale from clear cut black and white proof down to more or less something close ... That'd be news to Laplace, Neil. We are talking about historical "facts" such as the existence of certain persons and reality of certain past events. Once we get into the murky shades o...
- Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:17 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
- Replies: 473
- Views: 234146
Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Neil The normal process in conversation is for people to exchange views, ... You are seriously teaching that when somebody asks a question of fact on an open forum, it isn't "normal" for those who know a factual answer to contribute it to the forum community? If so, then that's absurd. Ex...