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I have a question, Giuseppe. Why would crucifixion be the method used for the celestial Christ's death?

There is of course astronomical and philosophical considerations, but why did these early adopters or creators need it to be crucifixion?

I can accept an allegorical Jesus ex doceticism being the original foundation. A word for a moment, a docetic reading would imply to me an earlier belief that was not docetic. It just doesn't daisy chain together for doceticism to be the view of Jesus's earthly appearance. The text mentioned, the ur...

Joseph, this is really ridiculous. Every day several Marcion threads are opened in this forum, the starting point of which is exactly the opposite. This forum has now become the Marcionite Speculations Forum. Sinouhe is right: some people here are really obsessed with Marcion. Not for StephenGorans...

Why must it be assumed Marcion revered Luke? Why must this always be a starting point? Prior to Irenaeus this Lucan connection never came up. Justin: Luke? Never heard of him. Papias: Luke? Who's that? Polycarp: Luke? Look at what? Hegesippus: Luke? I think my friend Theophilus knows him. No one kno...

Thinking a little bit about it. John the Baptist much??? Huh. Oh well.

I don't want to dwell on this for too long since that is a habit I am trying not to repeat. I will concede the more direct reading is spurious and stick with the mainstream one in which I don't really have anything more to say about that. From a base reading it seems to indicate to me that the Odes ...

The egyptians got ritually drunk if i remember as well? some festival or other Yes. Specifically it was to be imbued with the Ka of the Osiris/ntr. Not quit the intoxicating reverie of the Dionysian mystery. With the Odes, keep in mind: the flood is destructive it turns to the Temple (one translati...

Maybe. The Odes have both positive and negative drunkenness There might be something there. I have speculated that the Odes were an inspiration to the Johannine theology with the Temple being washed away in a divine torrent. Jesus's miracle with the water turning to wine might add to the symbolism....

GakuseiDon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:52 am By Marcion's time, any firm data about Christianity's origin had probably been lost.

Or hadn't yet emerged.

What troubles me the most is what Justin relays about Marcion's teaching: "And there is Marcion, a man of Pontus, who is even at this day alive, and teaching his disciples to believe in some other god greater than the Creator." Is it ever explicitly said in either the Marcionite Evangelion...