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by Leucius Charinus
Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 50
Views: 1480

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." (2 John 1:7) Pete I'm not sure this NT text can be taken both ways. I don't know any Greek - but the wording is strange if the writer was attempti...
by Leucius Charinus
Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 50
Views: 1480

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

Is this not also completely consistent with the claim made in 2 John 1:7? It appears to me that the claim made in 2 John 1:7 is consistent with both views. How do we rule one out and one in? Because we have examples of early people who seemed to have believed that there was a Jesus who was there bu...
by Leucius Charinus
Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:50 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: According to Irenaeus, who were the Gnostics?
Replies: 26
Views: 869

Re: According to Irenaeus, who were the Gnostics?

In book 2, Irenaeus has a reference re: "these same arguments will apply against the followers of Saturninus, Basilides, Carpocrates, and the rest of the Gnostics." This might seem to imply that Saturninus, Basilides, and Carpocrates were gnostics. Birger A. Pearson makes reference to Boo...
by Leucius Charinus
Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 50
Views: 1480

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

However what about people who may have asserted that Jesus Christ was a fictional character? That is, that in theory there were (other) people who asserted Jesus Christ did not come in the flesh because he was fictional being - that the NT was a fiction story. If such people had a time machine, the...
by Leucius Charinus
Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 50
Views: 1480

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

Are you contending that these people thought that the figure of IS XS appeared in history as a god, or a deity, or a spirit, or a mythological being rather than a historical "fleshy" human being? That's right. So if Marcion, for example, had a time machine, he'd have thought he could go b...
by Leucius Charinus
Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 50
Views: 1480

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

What about the reports (above) of those "who confess not that Jesus Christ (IS XS) is come in the flesh" ? It stands to reason there were people who doubted IS XS appeared in the flesh. Yes, I agree. Could these people be doubting whether IS XS appeared in history as a human being? Yes. I...
by Leucius Charinus
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 50
Views: 1480

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

The others seem to involve questioning whether Christ has come, rather than whether Jesus existed. What about the reports (above) of those "who confess not that Jesus Christ (IS XS) is come in the flesh"? It stands to reason there were people who doubted IS XS appeared in the flesh. Could...
by Leucius Charinus
Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?
Replies: 50
Views: 1480

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

"For many deceivers are entered into the world,
who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.
This is a deceiver and an antichrist."
(2 John 1:7)
by Leucius Charinus
Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Wide ranging study on Christian forgery?
Replies: 8
Views: 418

Re: Wide ranging study on Christian forgery?

@Leucius Charinus Thanks for this, very helpful. This question relates to the book "Forgery in Christianity" by Joseph Wheless located here: https://infidels.org/library/historical ... istianity/ I have previously directed your attention to this. Have you reviewed the work? If so what are...
by Leucius Charinus
Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Catalogue Christian literature by genre?
Replies: 1
Views: 108

Re: Catalogue Christian literature by genre?

I'm looking for some sort of summary of Christian literature by genre, era and perhaps language that was produced between the 2nd century and the 16th century. Any ideas? I have put forward a Proposition: There are Three Major Classes of Christian Literature https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopi...