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by neilgodfrey
Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 233539

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

Bernard Muller wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:46 pm
You read many books about doubting the existence of Jesus
Some perspective: I keep track of my private book collection on Librarything. You can see the reading I financially invest in -- that interests me the most -- at https://www.librarything.com/catalog/ne ... ourlibrary
by neilgodfrey
Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:08 pm
Forum: Other Texts and History
Topic: Previously Unknown Subspecies of Human Discovered in Siberia
Replies: 34
Views: 109084

Re: Previously Unknown Subspecies of Human Discovered in Siberia

Related, a BBC doco ... : Lost Tribes of Humanity

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by neilgodfrey
Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 233539

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

BTW, what are these few mythicist books you studied in depth? I'd rather you ask what books I study the most and find of the most value. I'll answer you the way you so often answer: read my website/blog. Go to the "categories" drop down box -- you'll see the list of may of the books I've ...
by neilgodfrey
Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 233539

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

Acts says the church of Jerusalem was started by Jesus' disciples. But there is an abundance of clues, in the gospels & Acts & (indirectly) the Pauline epistles, saying it was not so. And these clues point to others, mostly Hellenistic Jews. That I am certain and I demonstrated it in my web...
by neilgodfrey
Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 233539

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

to Neil, Yes, I question the historical methods and processes you use because they are, I believe, invalid and inconsistent with the way mainstream historians work. By mainstream historians, you must think of those working with tons of available evidence (valid and duplicated), but condensing it in...
by neilgodfrey
Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 233539

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

Maybe it sounds a bit strange to some people, you included Bernard, that I should say I am not interested in proving or disproving the historical existence of Jesus and that I find the very question pointless. The reason I am much more interested in historical methods and applying them to the questi...
by neilgodfrey
Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 233539

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

to Neil, Now I'm really confused, sorry. So you are saying that no-one was offended by the actual crucifixion of Jesus at the time, but the only time anyone was offended was when they heard Paul's message. Is that what you are saying? I think the Jews who acclaimed Jesus near Jerusalem were shocked...
by neilgodfrey
Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 233539

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

to Neil, You read many books about doubting the existence of Jesus, and for whatever reasons about rejecting his existence, about dismissing the early Christian writings as being of no historical value for determining the origins of Christianity, about explaining different mythicist theories. Why d...
by neilgodfrey
Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 233539

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

to Neil, I thought you held that the Gentiles crucified Jesus, so how could his crucifixion be a "shock" to them? The Gentiles (likely god-fearers or at least interested in Judaism) that Paul is referring in 1 Cor 1:23 has to be the contemporaries of Paul, who heard about his preaching of...
by neilgodfrey
Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig
Replies: 473
Views: 233539

Re: The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

This concept is not found in Paul. Paul at no point gives us any reason to think that the crucifixion of Jesus was a shock to anyone; This passage (1 Cor 1:21-28) says it, as I quoted it before in http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3346&start=210#p73764 More so: 1Co 1:23 but...