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by Ulan
Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
Replies: 161
Views: 88621

Re: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?

The Akkadian account of Ishtar and Tammuz may well have been familiar at the time of Jesus but it is less useful for mythicist purposes. Okay, thanks for the info. This leaves Tammuz' death and resurrection, which was definitely known to Jews, given that the ceremonial mourning because of his death...
by Ulan
Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:38 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
Replies: 40
Views: 22331

Re: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics

Cheers; I don't mean to be patronising per se or outright sanctimonious; but I do think semantics, and the way we describe these things, helps clarity - there are so many dimensions to all of the things we discuss here. Regards. Agreed. The most unfortunate term in this regard is the word "myt...
by Ulan
Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
Replies: 40
Views: 22331

Re: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics

MrMacSon wrote: ... but that doesn't make "Docetism a myth"; it makes Docetism [a belief-system] based on a myth.
Yes, that would be a more appropriate way to put it.
by Ulan
Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
Replies: 40
Views: 22331

Re: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics

But isn't this all portrayal, via a narrative? more .... "He was seen [ portrayed ] as real" ie. what he was portrayed as being made from is merely a narrative? Yes, but these are all different questions. While we can clearly say that Docetism is a myth, apart from obvious reasons also be...
by Ulan
Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
Replies: 40
Views: 22331

Re: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics

If I understood this correctly, it's not that easy. A "spritual body" was not necessarily "non-physical", it was a body made from "spirit matter". Matter from the spiritual realm, not from the earthly realm. Otherwise, the Docetist speculation over how exactly this body...
by Ulan
Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
Replies: 161
Views: 88621

Re: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?

MY apologizes, it was theterminator, right? Sorry about that. No problem. By the way I take you (Ulan) for a Gnostic, if I'm wrong, then I'm sorry about that as well. No, I'm not a Gnostic. You may get the impression, because I was looking more closely at our oldest canonical Christian texts, Paul'...
by Ulan
Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
Replies: 161
Views: 88621

Re: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?

John T wrote:"[H]ow come christians can see jesus in ancient hebrew animal sacrifices?"...Ulan
John T
That wasn't me.
by Ulan
Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
Replies: 161
Views: 88621

Re: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?

Where are those elements you talk of in the Inanna myth? Is this what you are talking about: "The afflicted woman [Inanna] was turned into a corpse. And the corpse was hung on a hook." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inanna And after three days, the goddess Inanna was resurrected. Which show...
by Ulan
Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
Replies: 161
Views: 88621

Re: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?

"The Inanna myth doesn't contain any atonement for sins obviously,..."Ulan So, after all that explaining how I didn't understand the argument, you admit Ehrman was right all along? No, because he generalized from the specific, which was Carrier's argument. Ehrman didn't acknowledge that t...
by Ulan
Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
Replies: 40
Views: 22331

Re: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics

Stephan Huller wrote:Ancient stupid people were open to the idea of 'alien visitations' as their modern contemporaries it would seem.
See Paul and Barnabas as Zeus and Hermes in Acts.