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- Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:56 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
- Replies: 161
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Re: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
The Akkadian account of Ishtar and Tammuz may well have been familiar at the time of Jesus but it is less useful for mythicist purposes. Okay, thanks for the info. This leaves Tammuz' death and resurrection, which was definitely known to Jews, given that the ceremonial mourning because of his death...
- Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:38 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
- Replies: 40
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Re: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
Cheers; I don't mean to be patronising per se or outright sanctimonious; but I do think semantics, and the way we describe these things, helps clarity - there are so many dimensions to all of the things we discuss here. Regards. Agreed. The most unfortunate term in this regard is the word "myt...
- Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:20 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
- Replies: 40
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Re: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
Yes, that would be a more appropriate way to put it.MrMacSon wrote: ... but that doesn't make "Docetism a myth"; it makes Docetism [a belief-system] based on a myth.
- Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:58 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
- Replies: 40
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Re: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
But isn't this all portrayal, via a narrative? more .... "He was seen [ portrayed ] as real" ie. what he was portrayed as being made from is merely a narrative? Yes, but these are all different questions. While we can clearly say that Docetism is a myth, apart from obvious reasons also be...
- Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:49 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
- Replies: 40
- Views: 22331
Re: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
If I understood this correctly, it's not that easy. A "spritual body" was not necessarily "non-physical", it was a body made from "spirit matter". Matter from the spiritual realm, not from the earthly realm. Otherwise, the Docetist speculation over how exactly this body...
- Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:45 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
- Replies: 161
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Re: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
MY apologizes, it was theterminator, right? Sorry about that. No problem. By the way I take you (Ulan) for a Gnostic, if I'm wrong, then I'm sorry about that as well. No, I'm not a Gnostic. You may get the impression, because I was looking more closely at our oldest canonical Christian texts, Paul'...
- Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:31 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
- Replies: 161
- Views: 88621
Re: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
That wasn't me.John T wrote:"[H]ow come christians can see jesus in ancient hebrew animal sacrifices?"...Ulan
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- Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:22 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
- Replies: 161
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Re: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
Where are those elements you talk of in the Inanna myth? Is this what you are talking about: "The afflicted woman [Inanna] was turned into a corpse. And the corpse was hung on a hook." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inanna And after three days, the goddess Inanna was resurrected. Which show...
- Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:03 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
- Replies: 161
- Views: 88621
Re: Can Richard Carrier be trusted to write the truth?
"The Inanna myth doesn't contain any atonement for sins obviously,..."Ulan So, after all that explaining how I didn't understand the argument, you admit Ehrman was right all along? No, because he generalized from the specific, which was Carrier's argument. Ehrman didn't acknowledge that t...
- Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:23 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
- Replies: 40
- Views: 22331
Re: WHO’s WHO: Mythicists and Mythicist Agnostics
See Paul and Barnabas as Zeus and Hermes in Acts.Stephan Huller wrote:Ancient stupid people were open to the idea of 'alien visitations' as their modern contemporaries it would seem.