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- Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:30 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
- Replies: 65
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Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Why would either reading greatly change the overall facts? In other words, has the significance been, somewhere, exaggerated? I don't know where Peter was going with the plural reading, but it *could* be taken as referring to the Carpocratian love feast described by Clement in Stromateis 3.2.9: The...
- Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:14 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
- Replies: 65
- Views: 1513
Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
SaosSidirountios, you declared that much of the widely-accepted text of Clement is, in fact, not by Clement. Without an example, your claim can not be assessed. Dear Stephen, what I am trying to say is that there is a massive corpus of works which suppose to have been written by Clement, but not en...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:51 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Sabar's New Morton Smith Article
- Replies: 113
- Views: 1956
Re: Sabar's New Morton Smith Article
I agree that 'Clement' does not expressly claim that the text of the Carpocratian version of Secret Mark was explicitly sexual. However it seems clear that that is how the Carpocratians are represented as interpreting it.
Andrew Criddle
Andrew Criddle
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:56 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
- Replies: 65
- Views: 1513
Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Could you translate the full sentence and then explain it? Τὸ δὲ γυμνοὶ γυμνῷ καὶ τἆλλα περὶ ὧν ἔγραψας οὐκ εὑρίσκεται. I would understand it as: 'But the naked men with naked man and the other things about which you wrote are not found.' I take the two words γυμνοὶ γυμνῷ to be what Theodore wrote ...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:33 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Sabar's New Morton Smith Article
- Replies: 113
- Views: 1956
Re: Sabar's New Morton Smith Article
I'm not entirely sure why γυμνοί is being taken to imply a heterosexual reference, it is a masculine plural, γυμναί would be the feminine plural. Obviously it might have a heterosexual reference but not necessarily.
Andrew Criddle
Andrew Criddle
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:25 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Sabar's New Morton Smith Article
- Replies: 113
- Views: 1956
Re: Sabar's New Morton Smith Article
The letter most resembles a private correspondence of Clement. If it's a forgery it was surely written by someone who consulted the statements about the Carpocratians in Clement's surviving writings. In either case Clement speaks or implies Carpocratians gathered γυμνοὶ γυμνῷ not naked man with nak...
- Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:56 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: κολοβοδάκτυλος
- Replies: 33
- Views: 697
Re: κολοβοδάκτυλος
I made a blog post on this hippolytus-on-marcion-and-mark I'm not sure if it's right but it may be of interest.
Andrew Criddle
Andrew Criddle
- Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:15 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Where did Celsus' Jew charge harshness upon Jesus?
- Replies: 1
- Views: 96
Re: Where did Celsus' Jew charge harshness upon Jesus?
Contra Celsum Celsus, in adopting the character of a Jew, could not discover any objections to be urged against the Gospel which might not be retorted on him as liable to be brought also against the law and the prophets. For he censures Jesus in such words as the following: He makes use of threats,...
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:08 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Socrates never existed: analogies with Jesus
- Replies: 12
- Views: 310
Re: Socrates never existed: analogies with Jesus
One may have to distinguish between a minimal historical Socrates who almost certainly existed, and the Socrates important in the history of Philosophy, the figure behind the writings of Plato and Xenophon. This Socrates, Socrates the philosopher, is quite possibly largely fictitious. Andrew Criddl...
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:40 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Socrates never existed: analogies with Jesus
- Replies: 12
- Views: 310
Re: Socrates never existed: analogies with Jesus
One may have to distinguish between a minimal historical Socrates who almost certainly existed, and the Socrates important in the history of Philosophy, the figure behind the writings of Plato and Xenophon. This Socrates, Socrates the philosopher, is quite possibly largely fictitious. Andrew Criddl...