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- Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:11 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcion's Gospel
- Replies: 233
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Re: Marcion's Gospel
But why even mention that at all? Mentioning Paul sure, given the tradition of Markion and Paul, but why even bring up gMark unless their was a connection in the tradition? I made a suggestion of a possible explanation here Basically Hippolytus is arguing: i/ The Gospel tradition which Hippolytus, ...
- Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:17 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcion's Gospel
- Replies: 233
- Views: 125576
Re: Marcion's Gospel
and the handwaving away by Roth (and Harnack)is part of the larger problem in biblical scholarship when data doesn't fit the paradigm.
- Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:10 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcion's Gospel
- Replies: 233
- Views: 125576
Re: Marcion's Gospel
But why even mention that at all? Mentioning Paul sure, given the tradition of Markion and Paul, but why even bring up gMark unless their was a connection in the tradition?
- Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:23 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Middle Recension of Ignatius is a Pseudepigraphon Written Around the Time of Irenaeus
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2281
Re: The Middle Recension of Ignatius is a Pseudepigraphon Written Around the Time of Irenaeus
Explains why Irenaeus doesn't even have a name for him yet. Your Peregrinus hypothesis look better and better
- Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:39 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcion's Gospel
- Replies: 233
- Views: 125576
Re: Marcion's Gospel
Maybe, maybe not. I'm fine either way, but I think it would make more sense if Marcion removed it because of his docetism rather than the orthodox adding it The docetism was first. Look at the record in the NT of when Jesus became lord or messiah. In the kenosis hymn and Roman's at his resurrection...
- Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:33 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcion's Gospel
- Replies: 233
- Views: 125576
Re: Marcion's Gospel
I'm keen on Vinzent's idea that Marcion wrote first, his gospel became very popular and spread. The proto-orthodox responded with the published NT (think Trobisch) and then Marcion formally published a response adding the antithesis to his gospel and apostolikon. But I'm guessing Markion's first ver...
- Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:53 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Who is John Mark?
- Replies: 84
- Views: 61198
Re: Who is John Mark?
2 Peter 1&2 Timothy, Titus, Acts, pastoral stratum in Paul, anti-dcoetic/gnostic/valentinian/markionite tendencies, I'd say they had no trouble making big changes in the mid second century
- Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:16 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was "Mark", just as Apollos, learned in paulinism?
- Replies: 70
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- Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:00 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Who is John Mark?
- Replies: 84
- Views: 61198
Re: Who is John Mark?
Noice xpost with davidm
- Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:58 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Who is John Mark?
- Replies: 84
- Views: 61198
Re: Who is John Mark?
He's a cipher for a 'major pivotal' character that joined johannine christianity with markionite christianity and ultimately subsumed under Peter's authority. Give it up about acts, its mid 2nd century