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by Clive
Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier on gMark parallel with Jesus ben Ananias
Replies: 209
Views: 183144

Re: Richard Carrier on gMark parallel with Jesus ben Ananias

Of course there was an earlier "divine only" stage = Marcionism. And the Marcionites were first in many people's understanding. I understand this is a much later medieval idea. http://www.cambridge.org/gb/academic/subjects/history/european-history-1000-1450/natural-and-supernatural-middle...
by Clive
Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier on gMark parallel with Jesus ben Ananias
Replies: 209
Views: 183144

Re: Richard Carrier on gMark parallel with Jesus ben Ananias

Is this the christian answer to the question where is the temple? You are? Does this mean it is all post destruction of Temple or there had been a tradition of asking do we need a temple? I thought the Battle of Marathon was really about does everyone worship their own gods or are told to worship on...
by Clive
Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier on gMark parallel with Jesus ben Ananias
Replies: 209
Views: 183144

Re: Richard Carrier on gMark parallel with Jesus ben Ananias

But we don't need to add all this stupidity. It distracts us from finding the right answer. What is often overlooked is that modern Protestants (perhaps 'neo-Protestants is a better description) want Jesus to be a historical man. Fine. But this represents a reduction from the original idea of the e...
by Clive
Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:09 am
Forum: Other Texts and History
Topic: How did the Byzantines withdraw from Greater Syria?
Replies: 3
Views: 11738

Re: How did the Byzantines withdraw from Greater Syria?

Those articles lead to discussions about what caused the Viking incursions! Climate change is noted. I have a couple of timeline history books! My impression is that what causes what is a continuing debate, one cause that is not given much weight is an angel speaking to someone in a cave, but maybe ...
by Clive
Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:13 am
Forum: Other Texts and History
Topic: How did the Byzantines withdraw from Greater Syria?
Replies: 3
Views: 11738

Re: How did the Byzantines withdraw from Greater Syria?

I think the comments there about sea battles may be important. Has anyone connected the Vikings to the Arab successes? ? Were there important technological innovations? I understand the Vikings were using mass production in ship building.
by Clive
Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was This Original Start of the Gospel Behind Luke?
Replies: 13
Views: 6757

Re: Was This Original Start of the Gospel Behind Luke?

Are we reading GMark with trinitarian eyes? Could the Dove be Jesus?
by Clive
Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:31 pm
Forum: Other Texts and History
Topic: Hagarism
Replies: 42
Views: 82244

Re: Hagarism

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/apr/05/shadow-sword-islam-tom-holland-review The Roman and Persian empires are traditionally seen as collapsing into a void that our schoolbooks called the Dark Ages. Holland's thesis is that there was no void: depending on how you interpret the material, the de...
by Clive
Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:49 pm
Forum: Other Texts and History
Topic: Hagarism
Replies: 42
Views: 82244

Re: Hagarism

Maybe the equivalent of 622 is very important. Holland discuses a receipt that looks like it has an arabic date on it. But does it? A monk worked out 1 AD centuries later. Might something similar have happened? Has anyone actually looked carefully at the dating system? Maybe it does not track back, ...
by Clive
Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:41 am
Forum: Other Texts and History
Topic: New Discoveries Suggest Zoroastrianism from China
Replies: 3
Views: 10781

Re: New Discoveries Suggest Zoroastrianism from China

In 1907, explorers discovered a vast treasure trove of ancient scrolls, silk paintings, and artifacts dating from the 5th to 11th centuries A.D. in a long-sealed cave in a remote region of China. Among them, written in Chinese, were scrolls that recounted a history of Jesus' life and teachings in b...