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by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:38 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Misdating Jesus to Jannaeus' era may be due to a confusion of Jesus with the Qumran Teacher of Righteousness...
Replies: 22
Views: 838

Re: Misdating Jesus to Jannaeus' era may be due to a confusion of Jesus with the Qumran Teacher of Righteousness...

Yes, I mis-typed Rabin instead of Roth, though neither seems on-point regarding the OP.
O'Donnell's dissertation does deal with dating proposals, for the Teacher, but not Jesus.
Toldot Yesu, I think, is not the only source of the mistake, the misdating.
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Morton Smith Movie
Replies: 55
Views: 888

Re: Morton Smith Movie

Just a few more notes after a quick reading. Maybe I'm mistaken about some of this. I, of course, think Smith brought the pre-inscribed (and pre-photographed?) Voss book with him, took his time to locate a similar-looking volume to take with him at night, replaced that with Voss the next day, ditche...
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion saute
Replies: 34
Views: 689

Re: Marcion saute

JarekS, given that you have spent many years in the "content business," might it be possible that you are retrojecting that model, imposing it on some ancient history? Does the beginnings of Christian literature seem to you to have been organized ab initio top-down by a single content-prov...
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion saute
Replies: 34
Views: 689

Re: Marcion saute

Who was this "publisher"?
And tell us about the ancient world of publishing into which you imagine him.
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion saute
Replies: 34
Views: 689

Re: Marcion saute

So you don't wish to tell us about your putative "publisher"?
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:44 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Misdating Jesus to Jannaeus' era may be due to a confusion of Jesus with the Qumran Teacher of Righteousness...
Replies: 22
Views: 838

Re: Misdating Jesus to Jannaeus' era may be due to a confusion of Jesus with the Qumran Teacher of Righteousness...

A. Powell Davies was a Unitarian minister.
Not sure why you mention Kevin O'Donnell (page number?--I have it) and C. Rabin in this regard.
If Mead wasn't serious he might have chosen a different book title.
C14 was not available when some of the mistaken suggestions were made.
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion saute
Replies: 34
Views: 689

Re: Marcion saute

"The publisher" ????
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:26 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Misdating Jesus to Jannaeus' era may be due to a confusion of Jesus with the Qumran Teacher of Righteousness...
Replies: 22
Views: 838

Re: Misdating Jesus to Jannaeus' era may be due to a confusion of Jesus with the Qumran Teacher of Righteousness...

Provisionally, about dating, though not a simple subject--nor is naming unnamed ancient authors!--I note that it is rather widely agreed that Celsus used a previously-written Jewish source about Jesus, and it may turn out that some baraitot (early traditions) are relevant.
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Morton Smith Movie
Replies: 55
Views: 888

Re: Morton Smith Movie

Prof. A. D. Nock (and his office) was at Harvard rather than Columbia.
Some other bits don't ring true to me, but I don't know if you want such feedback.