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I think that only for proto-catholics being Messiah is a limited subset of being Son of God in 'pauline' terms. In other terms, if you are a Messiah, then you are the Son of God too (this is the implication in Mark: Peter recognizes Jesus as the Jewish Messiah, but fails to see the larger set: Jesus...

This would confirm indirectly that there was a GENERIC title of Joshua/Messiah before Christianity?

You don't use a name in order to raise a contradiction if that name was not already in use and had a different meaning from that you desire put on it.

Secret Alias wrote: The failure of the Jews to recognize Jesus as the 'Jesus messiah' (or at least that he is claiming to be this person) when he is in fact named 'Jesus' is curious to say the least. Sort of like a Samaritan text describing the priesthood not seeing that a guy named 'Moses' might be...

I find it enlightening, in order to understand the real reason why the Jews kill Jesus in the Earliest Gospel, these words of Prof Vinzent: This is contentwise a somehow distorted passage, and the comparison with The Gospel teaches, why – it is the result of Luke avoiding to read it as a response to...

I find it enlightening, in order to understand the real reason why the Jews kill Jesus in the Earliest Gospel, these words of Prof Vinzent: This is contentwise a somehow distorted passage, and the comparison with The Gospel teaches, why – it is the result of Luke avoiding to read it as a response to...

Thanks Secret Alias for all these info (you will write a book about, right? I hope). Some considerations. you write: And why did the two powers become heretical but the messianic ideal preferable? You'd think it would be the other way around (because a revolutionary was more dangerous to Rome than a...

I find this: http://www.luke2427.com/jesus-battle-against-babylon-in-revelation/ The dramatic narrative of Revelation is strikingly similar. The entire book appears to be driven by this most fundamental retelling of Joshua’s battle against Jericho. The extent of shared vocabulary and the overlap of ...

To be honest, wanting read a priori with Christian lens that passage, my first thought was of Joshua stopping the sun, but seen as an ideal of Christian Jesus. The problem is why a Christian would invent a prophecy of Christ to come the first time on Earth? I usually see Christians resort to the old...

I read this: In any case, the knowledge that the educated portion of the heathen world, so far as it was religious at all, was permeated with a philosphical theology not unlike that which could be stated as the essence of their own religion, furnished the cosmopolitan Jews with an excellent opening ...

All ok, but you can assume at least here, for simple sake of argument, the Mcn priority, and discuss my view without no problem. Only as pure experiment of mind.