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- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:44 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
- Replies: 171
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Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
The context is heretics at Mar Saba. Kallistos is saying. The letter is ancient. The handwriting is from the 18th century. It was copied from an earlier period. But it was not Clement of Alexandria. This comes from the conversation between Quesnell and Kallistos Dourvas as witnessed by two different...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:37 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
- Replies: 171
- Views: 1497
Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
This account makes it unlikely that he informed the monks at Mar Saba of his discovery of an alternative version of Mark. Why is there always this parsing of words? You both do this. You're telling me that YOU KNOW that while in isolation is some fucking horrible monastery Morton Smith didn't turn ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:23 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
- Replies: 171
- Views: 1497
Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Seraphim is on the way to becoming a saint in the Greek Orthodox Church https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_26_(Eastern_Orthodox_liturgics) His day is December 26. Tselikas hints that Smith might have had help with his forgery. Could Seraphim's saintly status have been what prevented Tselikas fro...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:20 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
- Replies: 171
- Views: 1497
Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Really? With you guys turning it into a gay gospel? There is going to be serious work conducted when anyone investigating is immediately questioned, "why are you so interested in this gay gospel? Don't you love the Church?" Been there. Done that. Dozens of times with the Church. You guys p...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:14 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
- Replies: 171
- Views: 1497
Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
And another thing. Let's use the analogy of the Garden of Eden. Until "Western speculation" about homosexuality and an agenda against Church slithered into the door of the Patriarchate with Quesnell everyone was cool with the document. The document would be available today if it wasn't for...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:41 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
- Replies: 171
- Views: 1497
Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Who's left? Morton Smith writes in 1973 about him visiting in 1958 his friends the Patriarch and Seraphim, whom he knew in the 1940s, the people who ran the Jerusalem Patriarchate and the Mar Saba monastery when he discovered the document. Seraphim must have been immediately apprised of Morton Smith...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:19 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
- Replies: 171
- Views: 1497
Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
I am bringing up facts that few people have ever considered. Before I started this thread I had no idea that the whole Greek Orthodox Patriarchate accepted the document as genuine. Did you? You claim to have known that?
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:18 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
- Replies: 171
- Views: 1497
Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
So I am ignoring evidence? I haven't seen you bring up any new evidence since you were my age. It's just a constant retread of old and outdated facts.
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:16 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Abraham ibn Daud (d. 1180 CE): mythicism already then
- Replies: 1
- Views: 53
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:14 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
- Replies: 171
- Views: 1497
Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
But it is a good idea to speculate about forgery? This is nuts.