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Thanks Guiseppe. All the best, Ted

Giuseppe I found nearly the entire response from you to be using a type of logic that I can't understand. For example, you say you would expect a mention by Paul of Jesus' place of death. I gave 2 examples. Instead of addressing those, you used an inverse argument about 2 mythical figures. They have...

I say that the Jews and Pagans thought that the Jesus of Paul was a human I think it is more reasonable to assume that they knew what kind of man Paul was talking about -- surely Paul would have made that very clear to them. I think it is unnecessary to state the obvious when it comes to the crucif...

I don't see Paul denying that Jesus was on earth. Rather I see him referring to Jesus as a man in the flesh about 90 times. That's hard to explain away, and Doherty attempts to do so by applying a false expectation -- ie what should we expect Paul to have said if the GOSPEL JESUS were true. He also ...

Paul isn't going to say that the death is embarrassing, because it wasn't to him. It was God's plan, which cannot be embarrassing. The passage you gave says nothing about it being a celestial death. He says it is a 'stumbling block' to Jews. That's exactly what I'm talking about -- the need to expla...

That's because those people weren't dead. Once those potential Messiahs were killed their followers disbursed. I'm saying that if a group comes along and claims that a dead person is the Messiah, the emphasis logically wouldn't be on whether that person did miracles when he was alive or what he taug...

Hi, I may regret this because I don't want to get into a discussion, but this peaked a few various thoughts that you may want to comment about: The non-gospels reflect expectations of a Christ/Messiah, culled from the OT scriptures, which in the pre-Christian era did not include a crucifixion. Had J...

Hi, you wrote: The story of Jesus in this context suggests itself as an anecdote explaining a spiritual reason for why the disaster came onto Israel. The Romans in this context were heavy handed and the Jewish leaders were acting wrongly. Like the Jewish protestors against idolatry who offered thems...

And if Mark is following Paul, and has Paul's own thought about baptism, then the scene that appears therein is strictly allegorical; and thus for Giuseppe to argue it is allegorizing the advent of Christ's birth is completely reasonable. It sounds like you are saying Giuseppe is assuming Mark foll...

don't know what you are saying here. I allude to the possibility that the Baptism episode in Mark is a midrash from "born by woman, born under the Law" of Galatians: the "woman" is the dove/holy spirit and the representative of the Law is John/Elijah. So the deliberate "emb...