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Many of the passages in the synoptics labeled as Anti-Marcionite can very plausibly be understood otherwise, as common Christian supercessionism (of Judaism) or as Matthew or Luke's theological corrections of Mark (or Luke's of Matthew).
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- Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:16 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
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- Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:09 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
- Replies: 35
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Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Please. Why not read Mein Kampf and draw from it the "essential characteristics" of the Jewish people or Luther's "The Jews and their Lies"? It's a joke these theses. No one knows what the "Antitheses" were. No has the original text of Irenaeus's Adversus Marcionem upo...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:56 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
- Replies: 35
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Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
10 Theses on Marcion and the Evangelion 1) Marcion created the Evangelion primarily from Luke, mostly by removing material he believed to have been interpolated into the original gospel by Judaizers. In traditional synoptic problem terms, it is attested that the Evangelion has a good many of Luke’s...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:09 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: a neglected Marcionite gospel reference
- Replies: 21
- Views: 392
Re: a neglected Marcionite gospel reference
The reading Origen is quoting is peculiar to Luke among the synoptics, is it not? Have I given the impression that I don't think there are readings "peculiar to Luke among the synoptics" in *Ev? No, not at all. There is considerable Lukan Sondergut or L material paralleled in the Evangeli...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:58 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: a neglected Marcionite gospel reference
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Re: a neglected Marcionite gospel reference
Roth is also missing Origen's Fragment 166, where Origen is commenting on Luke 10:27-28. These words are spoken against the disciples of Valentinus and Basilides, and those of Marcion, for they too have these words in their "Gospel." We shall say to them, "When Jesus agreed with the ...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:43 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Misdating Jesus to Jannaeus' era may be due to a confusion of Jesus with the Qumran Teacher of Righteousness...
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Re: Misdating Jesus to Jannaeus' era may be due to a confusion of Jesus with the Qumran Teacher of Righteousness...
G.R.S. Mead, DID JESUS LIVE 100 B.C.? AN ENQUIRY' INTO THE TALMUD JESUS STORIES, THE TOLDOTH JESCHU, AND SOME CURIOUS STATEMENTS OF EPIPHANIUS— BEING A CONTRIBUTION TO THE STUDY OF CHRISTIAN ORIGINS (1903) may be downloaded here: https://archive.org/details/didjesuslive100b00meaduoft/page/n5/mode/2u...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:19 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200
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Re: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200
I am not able to find where is the expression οὗτοι δὲ ἦσαν οἱ καλούμενοι Μακκαβαῖοι. In Eusebius's H.E. ? Or in Antiquities ? Thank you in advance. I've previously suggested on this forum that Eusebius glossing James as the brother of Jesus who was called Christ so that his readers would be able t...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:15 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200
- Replies: 14
- Views: 502
Re: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200
Quick question: Why would Eusebius have wanted to make this interpolation? DrSarah, You could look at my previous response to you on this: Dr. Sarah, 4) The theory I am proposing is that Eusebius, who was looking for a passage in his manuscript of the Antiquities for the passage about James that Or...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:11 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Markan Marcion: A Contrarian Synopsis
- Replies: 155
- Views: 8818
Re: Markan Marcion: A Contrarian Synopsis
There's also a relevant quote in De Recta in Deum Fide that SA knows by heart that I didn't introduce there. I will find it now. The Marcionite argument, with the same citation, that Origen mentions here is also found in the Pretty translation of Adamantius , p. 43: The Apostle did not say, “accord...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:11 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Markan Marcion: A Contrarian Synopsis
- Replies: 155
- Views: 8818
Re: Markan Marcion: A Contrarian Synopsis
Three Marcionite arguments are mentioned: (1) John was the man of the demiurge and ignorant of the new deity. (2) The title mentions a singular gospel: based on the argument , the title was "the gospel" or "the beginning of the gospel of Christ Jesus." The former is a scholarly ...