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- Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:19 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Indirect evidence that the Fourth Gospel had to answer against the accusation that Jesus never lived
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Indirect evidence that the Fourth Gospel had to answer against the accusation that Jesus never lived
The Fourth Gospel has Jesus going more times in Jerusalem and not only at the end of his life. Why? Because the not-Christian Jews had raised in whiletime the following accusation, hearing the Christian news about Jesus: your Jesus has been never seen in Jerusalem. He was a perfect unknown in Jerusa...
- Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:34 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mentions of written gospels in Romans 16:25-27
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Re: Mentions of written gospels in Romans 16:25-27
Meaning, the Jewish scriptures. if you concede that Paul is entirely fabricated, then the more probable implication is that "now" the revelation happens according to "writings of the prophets", meaning the gospel as midrash based on the "writings of the prophets".
- Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:55 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mentions of written gospels in Romans 16:25-27
- Replies: 14
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Re: Mentions of written gospels in Romans 16:25-27
Bolland claims distinctly that the false "Paul" knew the gospel: One learns once and for all to understand that Justine's 'Memoirs of Petros' (Slide 106), which according to the presbyter of Papias (Eus. H. E. 3: 29) were written down by the 'interpreter of Peter' Mark and according to the...
- Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:28 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Mentions of written gospels in Romans 16:25-27
- Replies: 14
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Mentions of written gospels in Romans 16:25-27
Romans 16:25-27 can be interpreted to mean that the Gospels have been already written by the time the epistle was written: Now to him who is able to establish you in accordance with my gospel , the message I proclaim about Jesus Christ, in keeping with the revelation of the mystery hidden for long a...
- Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:51 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Stephan Hoebeeck on the philosophical origins of Christianity
- Replies: 20
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Re: Stephan Hoebeeck on the philosophical origins of Christianity
The same title of Christ for Jesus comes from the titles of the Logos. The Logos is a celestial high priest. Any high priest is an anointed (=Christ) of his own right (en passant, in Zechariah, a Joshua is high priest also, and as such an anointed). Therefore the Logos is anointed (=Christ) too. He...
- Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:19 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Stephan Hoebeeck on the philosophical origins of Christianity
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Re: Stephan Hoebeeck on the philosophical origins of Christianity
Now, returning to the topic of the thread, I find simply amazing the fact that the idea of Logos contains in nuce the idea of a preaching that has to be transmitted to others by logia . Who wanted to personify the Logos had only to invent a preacher . It is 100% expected. I remember that Richard Ca...
- Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:12 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Stephan Hoebeeck on the philosophical origins of Christianity
- Replies: 20
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Re: I don't troll, Giuseppe
Can you cite where Philo says that? Go to primary sources. I am expecting the book for more info in such sense. In whiletime... But a Christos Myth appeared. From where? When exactly? THEN Jesus came later. Epistle to Hebrews would have us looking around 50 AD, for that replacement. I repeat: if yo...
- Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:31 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Arthur Droge: The apostle Paul.
- Replies: 15
- Views: 2502
Re: Arthur Droge: The apostle Paul.
We will just have to wait and see how further Arthur Droge takes his 'interpolation' argument. it is not necessary to wait. Droge has made it clear that he is Jesus Agnostic , being arrived to a total stalemate given the absence of sources supporting the final decision about historicity versus myth...
- Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:28 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Arthur Droge: The apostle Paul.
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Re: Arthur Droge: The apostle Paul.
which is the only available serious mythicist theory assuming Christians before the 70 CE.maryhelena wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:26 am
Giuseppe - the 'interpolation' in 1 Cor.ch.2 is not against mythicism - it is against the Carrier/Doherty version of mythicism.
- Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:26 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Arthur Droge: The apostle Paul.
- Replies: 15
- Views: 2502
Re: Arthur Droge: The apostle Paul.
Droge, by demonstrating a late date for the heavenly 'crucifixion' idea has not discredited mythicism. On the contrary, he has moved mythicism, or more correctly, the ahistoricist position, forward. if he places all Paul in the second century (following Detering), then mythicism would have still ch...