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by Giuseppe
Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?
Replies: 17
Views: 26789

Re: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?

precisely.
by Giuseppe
Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?
Replies: 17
Views: 26789

Re: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?

Of course I'm supposing the priority of the marcionite Evangelion here.

Therefore not ''insertions'' in a previous hypothetical gMark o gLuke, but only different gospels based on a previous heretical gospel.
by Giuseppe
Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who is My mother and my brethren?
Replies: 35
Views: 24852

Re: Who is My mother and my brethren?

@Giuseppe What ever he mean by calling the author of Mcn (beyond he was or no the man Marcion) ''a far more obvious Joseph-Smith-style fabricator'' ??!!?? The answer : If we are admitting that the Gospel Jesus was deliberately constructed to sell a particular replacement for the OT and that no prior...
by Giuseppe
Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gal 1:19 interpolation
Replies: 22
Views: 20830

Re: Gal 1:19 interpolation

Why should I give evidence about Paul mentioning members explicitly by name? in order to prove that in Gal 1:19, where a presumed member is quoted by name (''James''), can only be interpreted as literal biological brother ''of the Lord''. Why not? Where, in his epistles, do you think Paul included ...
by Giuseppe
Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?
Replies: 17
Views: 26789

Re: Who's afraid of Jesus Terminator?

But the proto-catholic Luke inserted the first half of next verse Luke 8:29 (not attested in Evangelion ) because he had every reason to point out that he was not the man to be frightened, but the demon that possessed him. Hence the tone oddly apologetic, defensive , of the verse 8:29. Mark 5:6 He ...
by Giuseppe
Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who is My mother and my brethren?
Replies: 35
Views: 24852

Re: Who is My mother and my brethren?

But what he does confirms that he escapes the logic of the Creator god and the traditional messianic hopes. Even Mark did not take the opportunity to have Jesus clarify he is not simply the davidic Christ in traditional sense, but something of more. In Marcion Jesus seems the Jewish Christ but is t...
by Giuseppe
Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who is My mother and my brethren?
Replies: 35
Views: 24852

Re: Who is My mother and my brethren?

Richard replied about a question on Mcn priority. All too complicated. But I suspect this would cast into doubt historicity even more, or at least as much, because then you have a very late date for the first Gospel, from a far more obvious Joseph-Smith-style fabricator. http://freethoughtblogs.com/...
by Giuseppe
Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gal 1:19 interpolation
Replies: 22
Views: 20830

Re: Gal 1:19 interpolation

@Bernard >> Paul mentioned the Church of Jerusalem and members several times ( 1 Cor 16:1,3; 2 Cor 8:4, 13-15; 9:1, 12-15; Ga l2:1-10; Ro 15:25-26, 31 ) and acknowledged them as "saints" (1 Cor 16:1; 2 Cor 8:4; 9:1, 12; Ro 15:25, 26, 31). But despite these many opportunities in his epistle...
by Giuseppe
Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gal 1:19 interpolation
Replies: 22
Views: 20830

Re: Gal 1:19 interpolation

In my reading of Carrier's thesis on this, I believe he is saying that the James in Gal. 1:19 is not the same James as the head of the Jerusalem church, but I could be mistaken about that. Carrier concedes that possibility when he says that in that case the James of 1:19 is ''son of Zebedee'' there...
by Giuseppe
Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gal 1:19 interpolation
Replies: 22
Views: 20830

Re: Gal 1:19 interpolation

but a prince among men is, in fact, a man but not a historical man, even if he had only the appearance of one ( via Philippians 2:6-11). @Bernard Despite many opportunities in his epistles , Paul never said those were "in the Lord", or "in Christ", or just "brothers". ...