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- Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:47 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why There Is Not And Never Will Be Consensus
- Replies: 32
- Views: 21153
Re: Why There Is Not And Never Will Be Consensus
Bultmann is the most famous example of the "bare historicity of Jesus." Thomas Thompson may be the contemporary example of "minimalist history." Their methods are largely the same. The major difference noted is that the former includes the historicity of Jesus and that the latter...
- Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:40 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The quest for the historical Christian communities
- Replies: 22
- Views: 15750
Re: The quest for the historical Christian communities
I think what he's saying is that non-historicist writers think about the documents but not about the communities behind them. If they thought about the communities behind them, they might realize why they are wrong about the historicity of Jesus. (Yes, not sure why, but that seems to be his point.) ...
- Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:06 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The quest for the historical Christian communities
- Replies: 22
- Views: 15750
Re: The quest for the historical Christian communities
It's posturing. First you'll need a Ph.D. to have an opinion, then you will need peer-reviewed publications, then you will need tenure, then you will need a headcount of like-minded peers, then you will need a session at the SBL for the subject, and then they'll slap you on the back and say you were...
- Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:52 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why There Is Not And Never Will Be Consensus
- Replies: 32
- Views: 21153
Re: Why There Is Not And Never Will Be Consensus
Blogged this, with some changes of wording:
http://peterkirby.com/mission-impossible.html
http://peterkirby.com/mission-impossible.html
- Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:15 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why There Is Not And Never Will Be Consensus
- Replies: 32
- Views: 21153
Why There Is Not And Never Will Be Consensus
We can easily distinguish between nine different and irreconcilable approaches to the study of Christian origins, characterized by the amount of intrinsic weight given to the two main sources of ideas that could guide and limit the multiplication of hypotheses: (1) Statements made by the Christian s...
- Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:18 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: New Book on Sethian Gnosis
- Replies: 14
- Views: 24756
Re: New Book on Sethian Gnosis
Perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree then. I don't see that there are any particular assumptions necessarily inherent to the mere use of the word "pagan" by modern historians. If I did, then I might agree with you.
- Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:21 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The quest for the historical Christian communities
- Replies: 22
- Views: 15750
The quest for the historical Christian communities
Victor Paul Furnish has some brief words to say against a crop of writers questioning the historicity of Jesus, including: http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/reviews/is-this-not-the-carpenter/ "Moreover, most of the contributors take little account of the role of the Christian communities withi...
- Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:06 pm
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: atheist sunday service
- Replies: 13
- Views: 31174
Re: atheist sunday service
There aren't that many highly visible opportunities - especially for someone who might otherwise be "socially undesirable" (old, fat, disabled, etc.) - to have a regular and supportive social gathering weekly, outside of the institutions that have aped the Jewish, Christian, and other reli...
- Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:39 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: my Testimonium article
- Replies: 88
- Views: 101016
Re: my Testimonium article
How often does Josephus refer to anyone as "the brother of"? Plenty. https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aearlyjewishwritings.com+josephus+%22brother+of%22&oq=site%3Aearlyjewishwritings.com+josephus+%22brother+of%22&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.6794j0j4&sourceid=chrome&espv=2...
- Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:33 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: New Book on Sethian Gnosis
- Replies: 14
- Views: 24756
Re: New Book on Sethian Gnosis
Right away I like how this guy thinks. I can't believe historians actually use the dumb Christian slander "pagan" as if it were appropriate or even meaningful. Hellenic is not a direct equivalent to "pagan." I don't think historians, in general, like the etymology of "pagan...