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by Nathan
Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Would a Patripassian Gospel Look Like?
Replies: 73
Views: 32728

Re: What Would a Patripassian Gospel Look Like?

...there is gradation of inspiration is Judaism, Torah most inspired, prophets a little less, ketuvim a lot less. Daniel being in the ketuvim is a partial rejection in and of itself (as a fundie Christian would see it if he knew any of this) because its a denial of plenary inspiration. The idea of ...
by Nathan
Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:28 am
Forum: Other Texts and History
Topic: Muhammad gained his knowledge of the OT via the Diatesseron?
Replies: 6
Views: 37408

Re: Muhammad gained his knowledge of the OT via the Diatesse

The implication of early Islamic reception of the Diatessaron makes clear that the substitution myth of Jesus trading places with someone before the crucifixion was inherited from the Christian source for the Diatessaron too. I don't follow the logic here. Since there is no substitution myth in the...
by Nathan
Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The Era
Replies: 257
Views: 112265

Re: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The

Secret Alias wrote:Eshdat lamo = fire law.
BDB indicates that Deut. 33:2's eshdat lamo is corrupt, with "many emendations proposed."
by Nathan
Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The Era
Replies: 257
Views: 112265

Re: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The

The use of Persian makes it clear - no absolutely certain - [the Pentateuch] was written in the Persian period or later. Perhaps you could expand on this a bit. I'm well aware of the use of Persian in late books like Esther and Ezra-Nehemiah, but apart from you I've heard no such claims about the P...
by Nathan
Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The Era
Replies: 257
Views: 112265

Re: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The

Bullshit. Irenaeus accepts Mosaic authorship in both Against Heresies and Proof of the Apostolic Preaching. (In the latter, for instance, he introduces a garbled version of Genesis 1:1 with the words: "Moses, who was the first to prophecy, says in Hebrew" etc.) You're obviously too stupid...
by Nathan
Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The Era
Replies: 257
Views: 112265

Re: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The

Everyone knew Ezra wrote the Torah?? Who's everyone? Clearly not the author of the Bava Batra passage. Various pagans ... Such as? ... and Christians (Irenaeus just the earliest). Bullshit. Irenaeus accepts Mosaic authorship in both Against Heresies and Proof of the Apostolic Preaching . (In the la...
by Nathan
Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The Era
Replies: 257
Views: 112265

Re: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The

Secret, rabbinic tradition nowhere intimates that Ezra authored the Torah, not in Sanhedrin 21a or anywhere else for that matter. Ummm. EVERYONE outside of the Israelites KNEW Ezra wrote the Torah. The fact that Sanhedrin 21 says Ezra COULD HAVE written the Torah is like my son admitting that the b...
by Nathan
Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The Era
Replies: 257
Views: 112265

Re: 60 Scholars On Messianic Expectation At The Turn Of The

Remember the rabbinic intimation that Ezra wrote the Torah manifests itself in a Mosaic manner. I forget the exact wording but something like 'if anyone could have been equal to the task (of Torah authorship) Ezra was that guy' or something like that. Secret, rabbinic tradition nowhere intimates th...
by Nathan
Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Conservative Scholar's Discovery -> Marcionite Priority
Replies: 38
Views: 24459

Re: A Conservative Scholar's Argument for Marcionite Priorit

I would also add: How exactly does a NT canon at the time of Paul support a claim for Marcionite priority? Or are you proposing a broader revision of history? Marcion preceded Paul?
by Nathan
Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Conservative Scholar's Discovery -> Marcionite Priority
Replies: 38
Views: 24459

Re: A Conservative Scholar's Argument for Marcionite Priorit

Secret Alias wrote:No of course not.
So what's with the thread title then? It seems rather misleading, not to mention dishonest, considering there's no conservative scholar's argument for Marcionite priority coming from Kruger and the blog you've linked to.