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by Eric
Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:32 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
Replies: 115
Views: 166639

Re: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will

It's not really the tree that's material so much as the idea (from the most remote antiquity) that things like immortality and wisdom could be acquired by eating something. In Gilgamesh, it's a flower that gives immortality. On that note: Cannot place which of the early Church Father's said it, but...
by Eric
Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Picturing the competing grand views of Christian origins
Replies: 19
Views: 30050

Re: Picturing the competing grand views of Christian origins

Peter Kirby wrote:Some possibly-helpful timelines for doing so:

http://peterkirby.com/metanarratives-in ... igins.html
Simplicity! It is the art of true understanding. Nice chart Peter. And Thank you.
by Eric
Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:03 am
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Jesus as a Failed Eschatological Prophet
Replies: 54
Views: 73813

Re: Jesus as a Failed Eschatological Prophet

D11. Consider also E.P. Sanders’ argument: the passages that attribute these predictions to Jesus and Paul satisfy the historical criteria of multiple attestation (and forms), embarrassment, earliest strata (Mark, Q, M, L, Paul’s earliest letters, the ancient “Maranatha” creed/hymn) etc., thus stro...
by Eric
Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:17 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
Replies: 115
Views: 166639

Re: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will

It's not really the tree that's material so much as the idea (from the most remote antiquity) that things like immortality and wisdom could be acquired by eating something. In Gilgamesh, it's a flower that gives immortality. On that note: Cannot place which of the early Church Father's said it, but...
by Eric
Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:06 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
Replies: 115
Views: 166639

Re: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will

I think our language makes it impossible to give the determinism a fair shake. I mean language is structured to identify a subject ('I') who carries out an action ('write'). But all of this presupposes freedom of will. I think the history of the debate has been unfairly skewed in favor of free will...
by Eric
Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:04 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
Replies: 115
Views: 166639

Re: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will

I think our language makes it impossible to give the determinism a fair shake. I mean language is structured to identify a subject ('I') who carries out an action ('write'). But all of this presupposes freedom of will. I think the history of the debate has been unfairly skewed in favor of free will...
by Eric
Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:09 am
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
Replies: 115
Views: 166639

Re: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will

It's not really the tree that's material so much as the idea (from the most remote antiquity) that things like immortality and wisdom could be acquired by eating something. In Gilgamesh, it's a flower that gives immortality. On that note: Cannot place which of the early Church Father's said it, but...
by Eric
Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:11 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Strong Atheism - God and Time
Replies: 11
Views: 25853

Re: Strong Atheism - God and Time

Jason...this is interesting. I like it and I don't. lol That's a compliment intended. Will have to look into Thomas Aquinas more. Thank you
by Eric
Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:05 am
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will
Replies: 115
Views: 166639

Re: Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil; Free Will

Free will exists for all humans irrespective of religion or lack of it. In any religion God is the master and he cannot be forced to behave like a programmed robot by the behaviour of any human; such as: Give me Paradise for I have been a good Muslim. (Or any other religion) Can any human from any ...