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- Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:41 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: One of the two witnesses of Revelation was called Jesus/Joshua
- Replies: 23
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Re: One of the two witnesses of Revelation was called Jesus/Joshua
I should correct the my original argument in this sense. We have a lacuna here, in the omissis: 8 and their dead bodies ... upon the broad-place of the great city (that is called spiritually Sodom, and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified,) But the Christian interpolator, by introducing the inte...
- Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:32 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was the birth story in Luke/Matthew originally referred to John the Baptist
- Replies: 183
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Re: Was the birth story in Luke/Matthew originally referred to John the Baptist
I meant, by "new post", precisely the writing of a post in this thread. I am assuming that a thread is a set of posts. Hence this thread will be devoted to show the argument.
To my memory , I have always started a thread for a specific argument. I am not doing spam.
To my memory , I have always started a thread for a specific argument. I am not doing spam.
- Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:17 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why the Gnostics wanted that the Jews abandoned YHWH
- Replies: 32
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Re: Why the Gnostics wanted that the Jews abandoned YHWH
I am sorry but I don't accept the your views about Marcion. Paradoxically, about Marcion I am in the same point where the mainstream scholars are with the historical Jesus. In a point where to reject the historical Jesus implies the rejection of a lot of books. So, in the my case, the assumption of ...
- Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:18 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was the birth story in Luke/Matthew originally referred to John the Baptist
- Replies: 183
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Was the birth story in Luke/Matthew originally referred to John the Baptist
In a next post, I will list all the possible reasons to think so.
- Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:16 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why the Gnostics wanted that the Jews abandoned YHWH
- Replies: 32
- Views: 26326
Re: Why the Gnostics wanted that the Jews abandoned YHWH
At any case, a more interesting debate is about John the Baptist. I am strongly embarrassed by this figure, in the Gospels, since references to him are found even in any modern reconstruction of proto-Luke as Mcn . Embarrassed even more than all your speculation about a ditheist Marcion "the Je...
- Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:04 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why the Gnostics wanted that the Jews abandoned YHWH
- Replies: 32
- Views: 26326
Re: Why the Gnostics wanted that the Jews abandoned YHWH
The minimal concession I may give you, is that , EVEN if the demiurge was considered not evil but only without goodness (personally, the difference escapes me, but it is only me), the reason was a partial judaization of Marcion from original gnosticism (where the creator is 100% evil without no ambi...
- Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:09 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why the Gnostics wanted that the Jews abandoned YHWH
- Replies: 32
- Views: 26326
Re: Why the Gnostics wanted that the Jews abandoned YHWH
What are you even saying here? That the Marcionites outright rejected YHWH's existence? they assumed the existence of YHWH but they hated him. It is called dualism . The view proposed by you is called ditheism : adoration of two gods, beyond if one was greater than the other. The Catholics follow b...
- Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:02 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: One of the two witnesses of Revelation was called Jesus/Joshua
- Replies: 23
- Views: 17554
Re: One of the two witnesses of Revelation was called Jesus/Joshua
McSon, We can infer that the original reading was "where they were crucified"/"where their corpses were crucified" since only that passage could move the Christian interpolator to ask himself: wait a moment, I know only about Christ crucified in Jerusalem, not about two witnesses...
- Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:44 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: One of the two witnesses of Revelation was called Jesus/Joshua
- Replies: 23
- Views: 17554
Re: One of the two witnesses of Revelation was called Jesus/Joshua
And note that Revelation is strongly anti-pauline.
The Harlot of Rebelation is Lydia, the rich woman who helped Paul per Acts.
Hence the pauline "Mark" had any interest to parody the two witnesses of Revelation 11:8 by casting them as the two crucified thieves/witnesses of the Christ.
The Harlot of Rebelation is Lydia, the rich woman who helped Paul per Acts.
Hence the pauline "Mark" had any interest to parody the two witnesses of Revelation 11:8 by casting them as the two crucified thieves/witnesses of the Christ.
- Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:38 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: One of the two witnesses of Revelation was called Jesus/Joshua
- Replies: 23
- Views: 17554
Re: One of the two witnesses of Revelation was called Jesus/Joshua
Were the two thieves (crucified with an arrived Messiah) a parody of the two crucified witnesses of the future Messiah? Insofar they deride the Messiah, the particular Mark's irony is meant to confirm the reader about the Messianic identity of Jesus: from this POV, they work still as "witnesses...