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by MrMacSon
Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gerd Lüdemann's works
Replies: 6
Views: 16312

Gerd Lüdemann's works

Perhaps one of Gerd Lüdemann's best known works is Jesus After 2000 Years: What He Really Said and Did Here are a couple of reviews http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/doug_shaver/jesus.html http://www.christianorigins.com/ludemann.html He has a personal web site Lüdemann has written a number of ...
by MrMacSon
Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: evidence for Christianity before the third Roman Jewish conflict
Replies: 106
Views: 110914

Re: evidence for Christianity before the third Roman Jewish

Didn't the Council of Nicea spend a bit of time and effort finalizing 'doctrine' eg. warding off Arianism?

There still seems to have been a predominance of other gnostic variants in the 3rd C, too.
by MrMacSon
Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: evidence for Christianity before the third Roman Jewish conflict
Replies: 106
Views: 110914

Re: Christianity in Jewish literature

The theory of the fourth century construction of Christianity is something like the construction of a few decades worth of analysis of the Cuban missile crisis, without any Cubans or nuclear missiles or cold war. (The post-135 origin of Christianity, which I now see is Avi's preference, is not near...
by MrMacSon
Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: evidence for Christianity before the third Roman Jewish conflict
Replies: 106
Views: 110914

Re: Christianity in Jewish literature

Unless it can be shown that all Paleographers are wrong about the dating of all NT manuscripts before the 4th century then it cannot be argued successfully that the Jesus cult started in the 4th century. For once, I agree. Unless they were re-using materials - paper, parchment or whatever - ie. re-...
by MrMacSon
Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: evidence for Christianity before the third Roman Jewish conflict
Replies: 106
Views: 110914

Re: Hadrian and the Christians

theology hardly facilitates truth
by MrMacSon
Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:44 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: What started Judaism?
Replies: 18
Views: 27598

Re: What started Judaism?

Hasn't there been increased doubt about much of what has been proposed about Jewish origins, including the Exodus?

Huff. Post 2011 - Passover In Egypt: Did the Exodus Really Happen?
by MrMacSon
Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: evidence for Christianity before the third Roman Jewish conflict
Replies: 106
Views: 110914

Re: Jewish Expulsions / Exile

... There is no evidence for the existence of any Christian writings or beliefs, prior to the conclusion of the third Roman Jewish conflict, which resulted in the forced expulsion of all Jews from Jerusalem ... The final expulsion? ie. expulsion had been going on for decades, started in previous co...
by MrMacSon
Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ehrman's latest book: Forgery and Counterforgery
Replies: 23
Views: 54223

Re: Ehrman's latest book: Forgery and Counterforgery

Ehrman has already argued in "FORGED" that many books of the NT are either forgeries or false attribution including gMatthew, gMark, gLuke, gJohn, Acts of the Apostles, Ephesians, 2 Thessalonians, Colossians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, 1 and 2 Peter, James, Jude, and 1st,2nd and 3rd Joh...
by MrMacSon
Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Barbara Thiering's work
Replies: 6
Views: 10092

Re: Barbara Thiering's work

She copped a lot of ad hominems & 'poisoning-the-well' criticisms from christian apologists at the time.

Robert Price did a review