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by Ben C. Smith
Wed May 03, 2017 2:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).
Replies: 79
Views: 66064

Re: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).

But not as a name, "Peter Simon". Rather, Jesus "said to Peter, 'Simon, are you asleep?'" I thought that the Greek does not have punctuation and so there is no comma in the Greek. I also read that the word order in Greek is not as important in Greek as in English. Therefore it c...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue May 02, 2017 4:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).
Replies: 79
Views: 66064

Re: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).

I see your point, but I was pointing out two issues which I think make your hypothesis unlikely, secondly that Mark in 14:37 has “Peter Simon”. But not as a name, "Peter Simon". Rather, Jesus "said to Peter, 'Simon, are you asleep?'" And firstly that Mark has Simon in his gospel...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon May 01, 2017 10:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).
Replies: 79
Views: 66064

Re: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).

I think your OP is not only a nice present for me, but also a good introduction for all in the exegetical problems of the ending of Mark. Even someone is disagreeing with you, he would know on which exact point and why and what problems he has to consider in disagreeing with you and he could learn ...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon May 01, 2017 9:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).
Replies: 79
Views: 66064

Re: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).

John 13: 8 - 9 (RSV): [8] Peter said to him, "You shall never wash my feet." Jesus answered him, "If I do not wash you, you have no part in me." [9] Simon Peter said to him, "Lord, not my feet only but also my hands and my head!" As clear an indicator that "Peter&...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon May 01, 2017 9:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).
Replies: 79
Views: 66064

Re: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).

I am not sure Mark ever refers to him as “Simon Peter” as a stand alone. Correct. But he links both names together ("Simon, to whom he gave the name Peter") in Mark 3.16. The renaming of Peter happens away from the calling. Perhaps your “commission” is εποιησεν appointing. Correct, as not...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon May 01, 2017 6:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).
Replies: 79
Views: 66064

Re: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).

Verse 8 does not fit the story as presented by Luke. The story would make sense without it. Exactly. I think it makes much more sense as part of a resurrection appearance than in this current context. In fact , the full name Simon Peter might make more sense in a Marcan resurrection context, as exp...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon May 01, 2017 6:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).
Replies: 79
Views: 66064

Re: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).

Verse 8 does not fit the story as presented by Luke. The story would make sense without it. Exactly. I think it makes much more sense as part of a resurrection appearance than in this current context. In fact , the full name Simon Peter might make more sense in a Marcan resurrection context, as exp...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon May 01, 2017 6:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).
Replies: 79
Views: 66064

Re: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).

A few comments as I promised. Thanks, Andrew. Excellent points as always. The advantage of your idea is that as you say it resolves at one stroke various problems in the Gospel narratives as we have them. One issue that I don't think you specifically mentioned is that it gives the last words of Mar...
by Ben C. Smith
Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).
Replies: 79
Views: 66064

Re: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).

Bernard Muller wrote:to Ben,
On this much we agree. An actual reconstruction is beyond our reach.
So you consider my work on the matter as garbage?
Not at all. It is very useful.
by Ben C. Smith
Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).
Replies: 79
Views: 66064

Re: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).

I have pointed out that Lk 5:8 But when Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, "Depart from me, for I am a sinful man, O Lord." would look odd in Mark’s gospel as it is odd in Luke’s because of “Simon Peter”. Does Simon Peter look odd in Matthew 16.16? Matthew did not g...