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by Metacrock
Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:04 am
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: trinity confusion
Replies: 31
Views: 58526

Re: trinity confusion

theterminator wrote:i still see 3 separate gods.
because you refuse to understand what essence means. That's the term they and they used it for a reason. it means they three persona share the same essence so they are one God.
by Metacrock
Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:01 am
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: trinity confusion
Replies: 31
Views: 58526

Re: trinity confusion

1979 Episcopal Church (United States) Book of Common Prayer We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true ...
by Metacrock
Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:59 am
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Why not Jesus?
Replies: 30
Views: 53899

Re: Why not Jesus?

Why not Jesus? Vatican II puts the Catholic position succinctly: "At the Last Supper, on the night he was betrayed, our Savior instituted the Eucharistic Sacrifice of his Body and Blood. He did this in order to perpetuate the sacrifice of the cross throughout the centuries until he should come...
by Metacrock
Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:57 am
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Why not Jesus?
Replies: 30
Views: 53899

Re: Why not Jesus?

Well, if anyone ever said anything along the lines of 'the evidence for Christianity is overwhelming,' they are wrong. They do not call it 'faith' for nothing. Depends upon what evidence you mean. I think the process of faith is a transformative process, it could be understood in Khunian terms, Par...
by Metacrock
Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:27 am
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Why not Jesus?
Replies: 30
Views: 53899

Re: Why not Jesus?

So it could be that Jesus was preaching some lovey dovey stuff too, but I'm hesitant in thinking that's all he was preaching. It is for these reasons that I'm not a Christian - i.e. I do not think Jesus was the kind of guy worthy of my following, and in any case, I don't think we can know one way o...
by Metacrock
Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:20 am
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Why not Jesus?
Replies: 30
Views: 53899

Re: Why not Jesus?

Hey guys I'm an agnostic Christian and basically what I mean by that is I am undecided on Christianity but I admit my bias for wanting it to be true. Are Christians justified in their belief? Why do you guys reject Jesus as God? You guys are like the smart ones so if you guys are the ones studying ...
by Metacrock
Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:10 am
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Why not Jesus?
Replies: 30
Views: 53899

Re: Why not Jesus?

Hey guys I'm an agnostic Christian and basically what I mean by that is I am undecided on Christianity but I admit my bias for wanting it to be true. Are Christians justified in their belief? Why do you guys reject Jesus as God? You guys are like the smart ones so if you guys are the ones studying ...
by Metacrock
Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:07 am
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Why not Jesus?
Replies: 30
Views: 53899

Re: Why not Jesus?

Well, if anyone ever said anything along the lines of 'the evidence for Christianity is overwhelming,' they are wrong. They do not call it 'faith' for nothing. Depends upon what evidence you mean. I think the process of faith is a transformative process, it could be understood in Khunian terms, Par...
by Metacrock
Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:57 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: trinity confusion
Replies: 31
Views: 58526

Re: trinity confusion

i am not the one using "identity" "essence" and other bullshit words to confuse. i am using english to my level of understanding . english isn't even my first language so i will use basic terminology to make things easier for myself Those are the terms used in the creeds and in ...
by Metacrock
Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:28 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: i dont understand what is going on in the trinity
Replies: 36
Views: 68632

Re: i dont understand what is going on in the trinity

the creeds were established as means of defining Christian identity. the Creeds set the Trinity in place as a doctrine. So historically being a Trinitarian comes to be synonymous with being a Christian. The reason this explanation is weak is because Jesus, not creeds, established Christian identity...