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by MrMacSon
Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 16:9-20 as Forgery or Fabrication by Richard Carrier
Replies: 105
Views: 103773

Re: Mark 16:9-20 as Forgery or Fabrication by Richard Carrie

Why a member of a religion that believes in bodily resurrection should feel the need to question the same belief in another religion? http://www.aish.com/jl/p/mp/48929597.html In terms of Christian belief, the belief in the exclusiveness of Christianity does naturally exclude the belief in the Resu...
by MrMacSon
Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:50 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
Replies: 1208
Views: 522326

Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

Are there folks here who are really suggesting that author of Zechariah 6:12 has in mind some sort of celestial being? Isn't the main proposal & argument that Philo proposed some sort of contemporaneous celestial being? No, actually I readily accept that Philo understood this to be an allegory ...
by MrMacSon
Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
Replies: 1208
Views: 522326

Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

DCHindley wrote: Are there folks here who are really suggesting that author of Zechariah 6:12 has in mind some sort of celestial being?
Isn't the main proposal & argument that Philo proposed some sort of contemporaneous celestial being?
by MrMacSon
Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
Replies: 1208
Views: 522326

Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

cienfuegos wrote: What evidence is there of a widespread Christian apocalyptic trend at the time of Josephus?
Shall we say 50-100 AD/CE ?
by MrMacSon
Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
Replies: 1208
Views: 522326

Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

iskander wrote: PS. I will kindly ignore Josephus as evidence of anything.
Even though that passage is of dubious significance it is, however, a somewhat interesting alignment.
by MrMacSon
Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
Replies: 1208
Views: 522326

Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

in Judaism the messiah has always been understood as a pre-existing man, such as Bar Kochba who was stated to be a messiah in 130 CE , for example. 'pre-existing' or preconceived ?? There is no evidence to show that anyone in antiquity paid any attention to the obscure words of Philo about "Ea...
by MrMacSon
Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 16:9-20 as Forgery or Fabrication by Richard Carrier
Replies: 105
Views: 103773

Re: Mark 16:9-20 as Forgery or Fabrication by Richard Carrie

Resurrection is now an unpopular notion outside Christianity.

When did resurrection become a predominantly or an exclusively Christian thing?
by MrMacSon
Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
Replies: 1208
Views: 522326

Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

If people today look behind the Old Testament texts and find features they wish to state New Testament writers used they must demonstrate that those texts were read that way when the New Testament text was written. It i also possible intermediate texts were uses, such as those of Philo, as is what ...
by MrMacSon
Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Cesarea?
Replies: 18
Views: 23563

Re: Why Cesarea?

It's likely that the NT narratives were finalized or redacted long after the events they are purported to portray, and its'f quite feasible that may of the narratives were first started far away from the regions they are purported to be set in. I think it's likely that the writers were deliberately ...
by MrMacSon
Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus angel
Replies: 1208
Views: 522326

Re: Carrier proposes the NT Jesus based on Philo's Jesus ang

Biblical Typology Biblical typology is when a person or an event in the Old Testament foreshadows a person or an event in the New Testament. The bible is full of these kind of things. It is a primary tool of Catholic biblical exegesis to study these, because they all point toward the fact that Jesu...