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by MrMacSon
Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: the law is just, the παιδαγωγός, and the Marcionites
Replies: 14
Views: 217

if the absence of fear is called the beginning of good, fear is a good thing

Added more text after Peter's highlights to tease this out: Clement of Alexandria writes ( Stromateis 2.7-8): To these, then, and certain others, especially the Marcionites , the Scripture cries, though they listen not, “He that heareth me shall rest with confidence in peace, and shall be tranquil, ...
by MrMacSon
Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: the law is just, the παιδαγωγός, and the Marcionites
Replies: 14
Views: 217

Re: the apostle

Now the apostle, whom they do not comprehend I'm interested to know who the apostle is. From https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/clement-stromata-book2.html For how ever could the soul admit the transcendental contemplation of such themes, while unbelief respecting what was to be learned st...
by MrMacSon
Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Aspects of Herod, John the Baptist, and Herodias in Antiquities 18 and Matthew 14
Replies: 0
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Aspects of Herod, John the Baptist, and Herodias in Antiquities 18 and Matthew 14

Josephus Antiquities 18 . 109 -18: . [109] Meanwhile there was a quarrel between Aretas the king of Arabia Petrea and Herod, for this reason: Herod the tetrarch had married the daughter of Aretas and had been with her a long time. Once, however, when he was in Rome he lodged with his half-brother He...
by MrMacSon
Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200
Replies: 8
Views: 262

Re: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200

Also in Photius, Bibliotheca fol. 238 - before, "James, the brother of the Lord" - is, Agrippa the Great, reigned over the Jews, says Josephus, by filling them with his favours. It was to please them, apparently , that he killed with the sword James the brother of John , and that he tried...
by MrMacSon
Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200
Replies: 8
Views: 262

Re: Do all Roads Lead to Eusebius: Antiquities 20.200

So, I have been conducting some research on the James 20.200 passage (which I am working on a paper about arguing it is inauthentic). One thing I decided to do (because I can't find anyone else who has done it) is trace all the different iterations of the "brother of Jesus, called Christ"...
by MrMacSon
Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take
Replies: 20
Views: 339

Re: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take

τοῦ λεγομένου Χριστοῦ in the extant Ant . 20.200 is in Matthew 27:17 and 22 : as τὸν λεγόμενον Χριστόν (both in the mouth of Pilate ; see footnote 43 below) Matthew 1:16 : as ὁ λεγόμενος Χριστός 1 John 4:25 : also as ὁ λεγόμενος Χριστός 1 which, in footnote 39, List notes is . a passage about Jesus...
by MrMacSon
Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take
Replies: 20
Views: 339

Re: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take

Though, I think the mention of Jesus ben Damneus in Ant . 20.203 could well have prompted a scribe (or outright forger) to think of introducing a or the Jesus into Ant . 20.200. Just to acknowledge that I did read this. I just don't find it provides a sufficient or comparable probability for a marg...
by MrMacSon
Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take
Replies: 20
Views: 339

Re: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take

τοῦ λεγομένου Χριστοῦ in the extant Ant . 20.200 is in Matthew 27:17 and 22 : as τὸν λεγόμενον Χριστόν (both in the mouth of Pilate ; see footnote 43 below) Matthew 1:16 : as ὁ λεγόμενος Χριστός 1 John 4:25 : also as ὁ λεγόμενος Χριστός 1 which, in footnote 39, List notes is . a passage about Jesus...
by MrMacSon
Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take
Replies: 20
Views: 339

Re: Josephus, Antiquities 20.200: List's Take

The best interpolation hypothesis IMO remains the idea that a certain "James" was mentioned without providing an identifier. That is: if we go with an interpolation hypothesis, that is the one that would seem the most likely and easiest to defend. List's argument is, quote, 1) AJ 20.200 o...
by MrMacSon
Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:28 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Has anyone compiled a list of readings shared by Marcion's Evangelion with Mark and/or Matthew but not in Luke?
Replies: 5
Views: 140

Re: Has anyone compiled a list of readings shared by Marcion's Evangelion with Mark and/or Matthew but not in Luke?

I am wondering if anyone has compiled a list of Marcionite readings that differ from Luke, but agree with Mark and/or Matthew; or presented the text of the Evangelion with the Mark/Matthew agreements against Luke particularly marked. Klinghardt's The Oldest Gospel and the Formation of the Canonical...