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by MrMacSon
Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ignatz: Krazy Kat or Krazy editors?
Replies: 108
Views: 83021

Re: Ignatz: Krazy Kat or Krazy editors?

lol; Lucian - I edited my previous post to clearify (sic; & I'm not Sth African)
by MrMacSon
Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "I Follow Cephas. I follow Apollos. I follow Christ. "
Replies: 52
Views: 24743

Re: "I Follow Cephas. I follow Apollos. I follow Christ. "

Does 1 Corinthians 12 point to a time when Jesus/Christ was amongst a panoply of saviour figures offered by the early Church? 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.” If all that survived of ...
by MrMacSon
Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ignatz: Krazy Kat or Krazy editors?
Replies: 108
Views: 83021

Re: Ignatz: Krazy Kat or Krazy editors?

Here's a fixed link: True History . I find his judgment of Herodot interesting: "They [the travelers in the book] find Herodotus being eternally punished for the "lies" he published in his Histories ." Cheers. I changed my url-link too - to the one you provided. I also found thi...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ignatz: Krazy Kat or Krazy editors?
Replies: 108
Views: 83021

Re: Ignatz: Krazy Kat or Krazy editors?

. Acording to wikipedia, Lucian "wrote solely in Greek, mainly Attic Greek (he was [self-described as ] ethnically Assyrian). Lucian claimed to be a native speaker of a "barbarian tongue" (Double Indictment, 27) which was most likely Syriac, a dialect of Aramaic." He wrote in a ...
by MrMacSon
Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "I Follow Cephas. I follow Apollos. I follow Christ. "
Replies: 52
Views: 24743

Re: "I Follow Cephas. I follow Apollos. I follow Christ. "

There may have been a panoply of saviour figures prior to or concurrently outside "the early church". This sums it up well (as part of a summary & commentary on Richard Carrier's book ' OHJ '). Note the reference to henotheism - "... Christianity fit right in to the trend of other...
by MrMacSon
Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Real embarrassment about Peter: Why?
Replies: 10
Views: 4844

Re: Real embarrassment about Peter: Why?

This is interesting - Even if 'Peter' is invented, he stands in for 'the original Group of what will become Christianity' , in the gospels. This "Original Group", however, has NO IDEA that their travails will be turned into a Roman State Religion. They are anti-Herodian, Anti-Roman -SEDITI...
by MrMacSon
Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ehrman's Adoptionist Theory and Christ Mythicism
Replies: 132
Views: 78273

Re: Ehrman's Adoptionist Theory and Christ Mythicism

Some interesting passages from Bird's recent blog-post - ... I believe there was widespread and near-immediate belief on two key christological fixtures: (1) The identification of Jesus with the God of Israel (though in what precise sense remained to be worked out); and (2) The identification of Jes...
by MrMacSon
Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ignatz: Krazy Kat or Krazy editors?
Replies: 108
Views: 83021

Re: Ignatz: Krazy Kat or Krazy editors?

Why is the term 'original' being used for *this set of texts* anyway? They can't all be original. Maybe none of them are. I'm pretty sure about the latter when it comes to what they tell us in the way they reached us. Yes, good point (my question was a general, rhetorical one; not one to put you on...
by MrMacSon
Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ignatz: Krazy Kat or Krazy editors?
Replies: 108
Views: 83021

Re: Ignatz: Krazy Kat or Krazy editors?

This is disingenuous, too - So it's not possible or very unlikely that the short Syriac text 'cut out' these references to secretaries of Ignatius any more than Marcion 'cut out' Luke and all the references in OUR Pauline letters to Paul entrusting 'helpers' in his letters. It's false equivalence an...
by MrMacSon
Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ignatz: Krazy Kat or Krazy editors?
Replies: 108
Views: 83021

Re: Ignatz: Krazy Kat or Krazy editors?

I agree with what you say Ulan, although my impression of the the term "nothing but original" is it means 'totally original'.

Why is the term 'original' being used for *this set of texts* anyway? They can't all be original. Maybe none of them are.