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- Thu Mar 07, 2024 1:23 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
- Replies: 107
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Re: Was Josephus a Christian?
Regarding the Shiloh = Vespasian idea, in ARN 4.5, R. ben Zakkai applies the word addir (אַדִּיר) You can't tell the difference between what Josephus figured out about a living person who ACTUALLY RULED THE WORLD and took the scepter away from Judea and this shit? Ben somewhere in the misty past ma...
- Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:42 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 2507
Re: Was Josephus a Christian?
Ken has given me so much to chew on I'm not sure what to think now. But one thing is for sure, I'm not giving up on Ant. 20.200. I think it fits what Hegesippus says about James well and Origen certainly had the impression that it was the Christian James, and the use of "Christ" seems fair...
- Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:07 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
- Replies: 107
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Re: Was Josephus a Christian?
Regarding the Shiloh = Vespasian idea, in ARN 4.5, R. ben Zakkai applies the word addir (אַדִּיר) in Is. 10:34 to Vespasian. And like Josephus, he too was captured and then released when Vespasian become emperor. Our Scripture says that this Temple will be destroyed only by a king, as Scripture says...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:18 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 2507
Re: Was Josephus a Christian?
Good food for thought, Ken. Thanks.
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:30 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
- Replies: 107
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Re: Was Josephus a Christian?
Do we live on different planets? Are you really telling me that the idea that 1. Christians preserved the manuscripts of Josephus 2. Christians liked Jesus 3. Christians were always looking for witnesses to Jesus's greatness 4. To make them like Josephus more they added references to Jesus What par...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:18 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 2507
Re: Was Josephus a Christian?
What gives you the impression that Paul was "the leading authority" in early Christianity? What gives most people the idea that standing in front of a moving car is hazardous? Was he a leading authority? Sure. But the leading authority? No, because that is contradicted by what Paul and Ac...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:17 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 2507
Re: Was Josephus a Christian?
The idea that in 80 CE a Jewish turncoat decided to advocate the divine sanctioning of the Flavian dynasty isn't hard to believe. The idea that this turncoat, while advocating for the Flavians, decided to openly contradict his widely read lauding of the divine sanctioning of the Flavian dynasty wit...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:04 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 2507
Re: Was Josephus a Christian?
If he taught to "many" Jews and Gentiles, sure. If Jesus taught to "so many" Jews and Gentiles as you say, and had such a strong historical impact in 80 CE how could someone who never actually met Jesus become the leading authority on his teachings? Obviously his notoriety wasn'...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:02 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 2507
Re: Was Josephus a Christian?
If Jesus's name = Shiloh you could make an argument that he was "secretly" held to be Shiloh in 80 CE and Josephus was one of those "secret" admirers. If Jesus was recognized to be a world ruler in 80 CE. Maybe you have a case. Vespasian was world ruler and his name had the same...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:51 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Was Josephus a Christian?
- Replies: 107
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Re: Was Josephus a Christian?
If he taught to "many" Jews and Gentiles, sure.