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I'm not sure what your point is, I'm sorry. Marcion apparently thought his Gospel and his collection of Paul's letters supported a Jesus who lived on earth for a period of time, in the form of a human being, and who interacted with the apostles. What does it matter whether or not Marcion thought Je...

In the meantime, the following English-language interview was posted to academia dot edu, which may help some to understand better what the proposal is about:

https://www.academia.edu/92179332/A_rad ... seo_Ferrer

Thank you for the reply. I'm trying to work out the timeline that Paul would have preached: I do think that the revelations of the Hidden Christ/Messiah are recent since Paul says he had these revelations himself. However, he says that this secret has been hidden since ancient times. This is confirm...

When I began to think that Jesus did not exist, I was at first convinced by the celestial theory but I had trouble with his celestial crucifixion. It didn't really fit with what Paul was writing. In fact, Paul never really says that Jesus was crucified in heaven, and even by inference, this assumpt...

this is the first mention of Jesus's family, never mind their first actual appearance. in Marcion the family doesn't appear, Jesus is only informed about the presence of the family outside, but the family is not really there. In Mark 3:21 the family is said to be explicitly there: When his family h...

Jesus does not reject his family, cruelly or otherwise. The situation is that he inside and his family outside are physically separated by a densely packed crowd of people. The family group cannot get inside, in Marcion, they said to Jesus "your family is there out" with the intention to ...

The fact that Mark has in a bad light the family of Jesus doesn't imply the priority of a lost proto-Matthew, since in Marcion there is not at all a Jesus's family but only the temptation of one, hence the Jesus who rejects cruelly his own family can be seen as anti-marcionite, rather than reflecti...

if I am correct, Josephus read the TF in Eusebius but he denied his presence in Josephus. Dave Allen thinks that his denial was a lie. I don't. You're still short of showing there was a denial. Assuming Ken has located the focus paragraph, Julian said nothing about writers or writings after the eve...

What do you think Julian would have made of Josephus's apparent comment in the TF: "He was the Christ"? If I may offer my own answer while waiting for Giuseppe's: I think Julian would know that Josephus was Jewish and not a Christian writer. Like any reader, when he encountered a statemen...

There are some interesting points here. That Julian would point to the lack of mentions from non-Christian writers from the times of Tiberius and Claudius (the lifetimes of canonical Jesus and his first apostles) may reflect the same concern about the received TF (even after cleaning) and Tacitus th...