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by Geocalyx
Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 'The Original Gnostic Apostles'
Replies: 27
Views: 26715

Re: 'The Original Gnostic Apostles'

Theosophists & Crowley et al are the worst lot. But I'd rather say I see no distinctive word in English between "knowing something" and "knowing someone", which ends up in lots of confusion when dealing with this. The knowledge 'gnosis' described does not appear to be static,...
by Geocalyx
Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.
Replies: 86
Views: 83209

Re: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.

Sorry for bumping a second page topic, I still kind of have my hands full. Geocalyx i think fundamentally this myth seeks to explain the origin of Christian orthodoxy from a 'gnostic' perspective, given these folks really did think they were the 'real church', that is what they thought. They did thi...
by Geocalyx
Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.
Replies: 86
Views: 83209

Re: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.

So further on the identity of Ialdabaoth, there was apparently also a Meroitic war god named Apedemak. ... The most important centres in this area were the ancient cities of naqa and Musawwarat es Sufra. naqa is located 50km east of the nile, along the wadi awateib, which has flowing water during go...
by Geocalyx
Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.
Replies: 86
Views: 83209

Re: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.

"Early in the fifth century C.E. Shenoute, Abbot of the White Monas­ tery at the same Panopolis where Pachomius had founded monasteries and from which the “ philosopher” had come, attacked a group at the nearby temple of Pneueit that called itself “ kingless,” worshipped the “ demiurge,” and w...
by Geocalyx
Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.
Replies: 86
Views: 83209

Re: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.

also if monks wrote them then they were just as likely to be making money by copying heretical works and selling them, that might explain the odd slightly more orthodox text in unexpected places. that's the monks conscience deciding that this will 'make it ok' Copying? From who? Some guys who expec...
by Geocalyx
Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.
Replies: 86
Views: 83209

Re: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.

Just one more thought, tangentially related. So then I remember doing some work with Theban Magical Papyri and those fake Sybilline Oracles a long time ago ... I saw Nero Redivivus, saw some spells and references to Nero as a benevolent deity ... and thought, why would anyone want to do supernatural...
by Geocalyx
Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.
Replies: 86
Views: 83209

Re: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.

I'm gonna add a few things to this, and maybe risk a ban? Hope not. I don't know anything about early Christian movement or heresies, because I try not to draw my sources from Latin (masters of propaganda and conquest by division, these Romans, and even proudly such), so I'm not gonna say anything a...
by Geocalyx
Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.
Replies: 86
Views: 83209

Re: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.

Overlap makes sense actually, like taking others' ideas and developing them in extreme directions, but I'm not sure of the authorial intent behind all this. Are the authors still monks, when no prayer to Father apparently does him justice?
by Geocalyx
Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.
Replies: 86
Views: 83209

Re: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.

Now that I'm off my duties, I should elaborate. Maybe pull some random examples? But every name which is thought //66//or spoken of him is brought forth in glorification as a trace of him, according to the capacity of each 5 one of those who glorify him. The one who dawned forth, then, from him, ext...
by Geocalyx
Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.
Replies: 86
Views: 83209

Re: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.

Wish I'd seen this topic earlier. I don't have the time now! But anyway. The writings of NHC have one common theme once you get to the bottom of them: they all emphasize autonomy of mind. The ones that at first glance do not, take their religious outlook to ludicrous extreme and that's where the dis...