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by davidmartin
Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 14-15 "fulfilling scripture"
Replies: 8
Views: 340

Re: Mark 14-15 "fulfilling scripture"

fair enough but either what you say took place in multiple texts or why only Mark and no-where else, maybe it also took place also in 1 Corinthians. i don't think Paul's saying that at all, he's on a morality diatribe and the passover lamb comes out of nowhere. I think ch10 and 11 show he's talking ...
by davidmartin
Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 14-15 "fulfilling scripture"
Replies: 8
Views: 340

Re: Mark 14-15 "fulfilling scripture"

I thought it could indirectly connect to prophecy around the sacrificial atonement (like 1cor15 'For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures'). I see a connection to interpretations around prophecy that might come from a bi...
by davidmartin
Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 14-15 "fulfilling scripture"
Replies: 8
Views: 340

Re: Mark 14-15 "fulfilling scripture"

RG, I thought the same here in 1Cor 5:7 what you think? We're seeing these texts get a bit of an orthodoxising in these little additions that show the orthodox were saying 'look guys, we really believe in the scriptural fulfillment and the prophecies, that's us'. so we're seeing the idea's of that l...
by davidmartin
Tue Feb 20, 2024 3:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Anti-Marcionite Prejudice of Scholars
Replies: 30
Views: 753

Re: The Anti-Marcionite Prejudice of Scholars

If Philo was influenced by Aramaic the verb/infinitive translated by chrest type words is bassima Core meaning 'sweetness, kindness, pleasantness' as used of perfume and figuratively 'to cause joy' One could argue that 'Christ' derives from bassima and the Messiah is another, different word. So far ...
by davidmartin
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus is not the Christ: A Reading of Mark
Replies: 153
Views: 3804

Re: Jesus is not the Christ: A Reading of Mark

it depends what Marcionite's 'promise' was that apparently they were loud in proclaiming had arrived (Tertullian)
if the promise wasn't messianic was it that to Abraham or one from a good god that was nothing to do with Abraham?
maybe this is the sort of thing Marcionites disagreed about
by davidmartin
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Problem With Jesus Being the Christ
Replies: 23
Views: 655

Re: The Problem With Jesus Being the Christ

lol Joel Olsteen. Olsteen and Popoff and Hinn. most outsiders they don't care on these details we think matter here (Chrest/Christ/Thomas) or think it makes much difference, but they see flim flam Christians getting away with it. From a Jewish perspective I'm guessing they see massive difference bet...
by davidmartin
Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus is not the Christ: A Reading of Mark
Replies: 153
Views: 3804

Re: Jesus is not the Christ: A Reading of Mark

"Barabbas" is the rival Jesus Son of unknown Father, rival to the other Jesus, the Jesus called Chr i stos (or 'king of the Jews' ). Chr e stos emphasizes a marcionite attribute of the Jesus Son of Father: his being the Good God. Hence the discovery of the hot water: that there was a sect...
by davidmartin
Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark's use of Philo
Replies: 43
Views: 1329

Re: Mark's use of Philo

or the writings of Philo got reworked and added to well into the 2nd century and reflect opposition to Justin's style of Christianity in these passages. if so it don't tell us much. if a connection can be established so does the direction of dependence surely i mean if its proposed Mark drew from Ph...
by davidmartin
Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark's use of Philo
Replies: 43
Views: 1329

Re: Mark's use of Philo

ah, yes well just a thought it reminded me a bit of "life of brian", sort of like a Monty Python sketch this "Maris" is just silly. In Syriac it means 'Lord' I been seeing that word all the time in Syriac everywhere there's a Kyrios, well Mar-ya literally the 's' is a Greek endin...
by davidmartin
Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark's use of Philo
Replies: 43
Views: 1329

Re: Mark's use of Philo

how do you know Philo isn't using Mark? it's not as if we have the virgin manuscript that Philo himself wrote while his wife brought him bagels. No, we have a copy that presumably was in Jewish hands for a century or more. If they objected to any of it (if? what am I saying!) they could easily put i...