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by Stefan Kristensen
Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)
Replies: 40
Views: 32419

Re: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)

andrewcriddle wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:40 am
... And the sacrifice of the irrationalb lamb was a symbol of ...
i don't know which image of the mind is more entertaining, an irrational lamb or a rational lamb!
by Stefan Kristensen
Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)
Replies: 40
Views: 32419

Re: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)

SSee Hippolytus Apostolic Tradition for the prayers of the hours. 5If you are at home, pray at the third hour and praise God. If you are elsewhere at that time, pray in your heart to God. 6For in this hour Christ was seen nailed to the wood. And thus in the Old Testament the Law instructed that the...
by Stefan Kristensen
Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)
Replies: 40
Views: 32419

Re: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)

Excellent, thank you very much. Do you know of any interpretations of Jesus' cry on the cross as a prayer? Could all three hours mentioned in Mark 15, the third, the sixth and the ninth have any connection with the liturgical practise of prayer, you think? Well, as you may recall , I am partial to ...
by Stefan Kristensen
Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)
Replies: 40
Views: 32419

Re: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)

perseusomega9 wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:46 am
Going with the allusion that Jesus is the Temple, of course
I agree. The temple is the place where God has placed his authority, his name, the place in which prayers are heard. Whether it's the old or the new temple.
by Stefan Kristensen
Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)
Replies: 40
Views: 32419

Re: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)

Excellent, thank you very much. Do you know of any interpretations of Jesus' cry on the cross as a prayer? Could all three hours mentioned in Mark 15, the third, the sixth and the ninth have any connection with the liturgical practise of prayer, you think?
by Stefan Kristensen
Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)
Replies: 40
Views: 32419

"Eli eli" at the ninth hour is a prayer? (Mark 15:34)

In Mark 15 and the other two synoptics, after three hours of hanging on the cross and being mocked comes three hours of darkness and then Jesus dies, at the ninth hour, i.e. at three o'clock. And Jesus' death comes upon his loud cry on the cross which is a citation of Ps 22:1: "My God, my God, why h...
by Stefan Kristensen
Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 9:1 "seeing the kingdom having come in power"
Replies: 23
Views: 23901

Re: Mark 9:1 "seeing the kingdom having come in power"

More concerning "generation". In Phil 2:14-15 Paul contrasts the Christians as "children of God" with the "crooked and perverse generation": Do all things without murmuring and arguing, so that you may be blameless and innocent, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and perverse ...
by Stefan Kristensen
Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philippian Hymn - no incarnation?
Replies: 10
Views: 10315

Re: Philippian Hymn - no incarnation?

Here Jesus "makes himself of no effect, being in the form of God taking on the form of a slave ... becoming obedient to the point of death". In a way, then, this emptying element is the exact opposite - perhaps even undoing - of Adam's transgression, as he grabbed being equal to God. Adam grabbed t...
by Stefan Kristensen
Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philippian Hymn - no incarnation?
Replies: 10
Views: 10315

Re: Philippian Hymn - no incarnation?

So that he was born "in human likeness and appearing in the shape of a human" but he was still "in the form of God". And that's when he took on "the form of a slave ... becoming obediant to the point of death". I just meant that the first lines possibly don't refer to the incarnation. Got it. :thum...
by Stefan Kristensen
Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philippian Hymn - no incarnation?
Replies: 10
Views: 10315

Re: Philippian Hymn - no incarnation?

So that he was born "in human likeness and appearing in the shape of a human" but he was still "in the form of God". And that's when he took on "the form of a slave ... becoming obediant to the point of death".

I just meant that the first lines possibly don't refer to the incarnation.