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by Peter Kirby
Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Archaeological Evidence of pre-Constantinian Christianity
Replies: 137
Views: 124642

Re: Archaeological Evidence of pre-Constantinian Christianit

Your original point was to support your idiotic contention that there were no witnesses to Christianity before Nicaea. None of these sources do that - so shut the fuck up. Without dumbass quote mining, he'd have nothing to say. And avi should be ashamed for promoting it. I'd like to see the forum m...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Megyn "Jesus was a white man ... He was a historical figure"
Replies: 9
Views: 11174

Re: Megyn "Jesus was a white man ... He was a historical fig

"Jesus was a white man, too. He was a historical figure. That’s a verifiable fact." [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV_9ch2kQ3c#t=118[/youtube] [youtube]http://youtu.be/LV_9ch2kQ3c[/youtube] [youtube]<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: “High/Early Christology”: A Crack in the Foundations?
Replies: 27
Views: 26011

Re: “High/Early Christology”: A Crack in the Foundations?

As Chester observes, it’s really the evidence that seems to require the conclusion that Jesus-devotion erupted rapidly and originated in circles of Jewish Jesus-followers in Judea . That conclusion (with variations in emphases) is now supported by a wide (and growing) spectrum of scholars. (a retir...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Historicity of Jesus - the Talking Points
Replies: 18
Views: 40606

Re: Historicity of Jesus - the Talking Points

Herculean task, you say? Sounds like fun. ;)
by Peter Kirby
Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Historicity of Jesus - the Talking Points
Replies: 18
Views: 40606

Re: Historicity of Jesus - the Talking Points

But the Gospel of Mark was written in the 1st/2nd AD and refers to Pilate, a figure of the 1st AD. It may still be a work removed from the description of the real world even then, but it is in that case a good question why it would choose to refer to the end coming in the lives of some of those sta...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: my Testimonium article
Replies: 88
Views: 101016

Re: my Testimonium article

It's possibly relevant, and at the end of the day a small modicum of probability against a hypothesis might be wrung out from this argument, but it would have to sit next to other arguments (some of which I, at least, take to be more straightforward and probative).
by Peter Kirby
Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Detering, etc.
Replies: 55
Views: 72230

Re: Detering, etc.

Regardless of DuvDuv's position on this matter, in my opinion, any idiot can recognize that FAITH is absolutely required to believe in the divinity of any of these religious figures. There exists no evidence of any kind to support the Mormons, the Jews, the Christians, the 7th day Adventists, the S...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Historicity of Jesus - the Talking Points
Replies: 18
Views: 40606

Re: Historicity of Jesus - the Talking Points

And so, without further ado, let's get into some of the basic talking points, trying to go over as many as possible briefly. For the Historicity of Jesus (3) In the synoptics ( Mark 9:1 etc. ) and John (the 21st chapter), as well as in similar more-developed echoes in 2 Peter, there is reference to...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Detering, etc.
Replies: 55
Views: 72230

Re: Detering, etc.

Peter, maybe there is something wrong with me Seems that way. What do you find "idiotic" about it? The argument for a historical Moses and the idea that faith must be used to reach any conclusions regarding ancient Judaism or Christianity. why do you focus on my accolade directed toward a...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: “High/Early Christology”: A Crack in the Foundations?
Replies: 27
Views: 26011

Re: “High/Early Christology”: A Crack in the Foundations?

Of course these scholarly nitwits will never admit that Jesus started as a god (or THE angel of the presence) and was later developed into a person unless someone spikes the punch at an SBL conference with LSD. I don't recommend this and it certainly won't be me. isu = ishu ('His man' i.e. the firs...