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by John2
Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Dead Sea Scrolls & the New Testament
Replies: 55
Views: 24523

Re: John T

spin wrote:
So" usually requires argumentation and evidence preceding it.
I thought I had ("The Damascus Document has an esoteric understanding of the priesthood, which, as Eisenman points out, involved altering Ezk. 44:15 by adding vavs to it ...").
by John2
Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:20 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: DSS personalities & historical persons
Replies: 42
Views: 29020

Re: DSS personalities & historical persons

And so it all comes together. Even as early as the 1960s there were major scholars who cast doubt on this interpretation of a pre-Christian date for the scrolls. Both Cecil Roth, the editor-in-chief of the Encyclopaedia Judaica and a reader in Jewish Studies at Oxford University, and Godfrey Driver ...
by John2
Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:47 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: DSS personalities & historical persons
Replies: 42
Views: 29020

Re: DSS personalities & historical persons

Bearing in mind that this was written in 1964 though: We must start from the assumption that the documents belong to the period round about the beginning of the Christian era, an assumption generally conceded by all scholars but one and confirmed by the carbon-14 test. And: Now, all these conditions...
by John2
Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:40 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: DSS personalities & historical persons
Replies: 42
Views: 29020

Re: DSS personalities & historical persons

I found some complete articles and I'm checking them out now.

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/author/cecil-roth/
by John2
Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:06 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: DSS personalities & historical persons
Replies: 42
Views: 29020

Re: DSS personalities & historical persons

Geez, this guy is hard to find. None of his books are viewable on Google books, and his articles are truncated, but I think I get the gist of it. http://www.historytoday.com/cecil-roth/historian-and-dead-sea-scrolls https://www.jstor.org/stable/42640748?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents http://www.nytime...
by John2
Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:01 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: DSS personalities & historical persons
Replies: 42
Views: 29020

Re: DSS personalities & historical persons

I haven't read Roth but I'll put it on the to do list. From what you have written though, it appears that he is in the same ballpark as me, in that I view the DSS sect as being the Fourth Philosophy, and that would include people like Simon bar Giora, Menachem, et al. It's really more about situatin...
by John2
Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Dead Sea Scrolls & the New Testament
Replies: 55
Views: 24523

Re: John T

spin wrote: Except of course the priesthood, the sons of Zadoq and the sons of Aaron... and isn't it strange that these torah observing people think they have the sons of Zadoq and the sons of Aaron amongst them? But Charlesworth is too straight-laced to consider such a wacky idea as that these peop...
by John2
Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Dead Sea Scrolls & the New Testament
Replies: 55
Views: 24523

Re: John T

arnoldo wrote: Metaphorically/Metaphysically speaking there are similarities between 1 Peter2:5 and 2 Cor3:3. Do you mean 2 Cor. 6:16-17? "What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy that...
by John2
Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jewish Christian Torah Observance
Replies: 11
Views: 4718

Re: Jewish Christian Torah Observance

And the last. Stephan wrote: But the idea that they kept sacrifices is confounded by the many statements in the Clementine Literature which is generally thought to come from this/these groups. As Jews didn't continue to sacrifice the fact that they did not sacrifice wouldn't have made them seem less...
by John2
Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jewish Christian Torah Observance
Replies: 11
Views: 4718

Re: Jewish Christian Torah Observance

Here's another one. This would be in keeping with James 2:10 ("For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it") and the presentation of Jewish Christians as spending time and/or offering sacrifices in the Temple in Acts, Hegesippus and Mt...