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by Giuseppe
Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What meant for a Jew the destruction of the Temple?
Replies: 6
Views: 4351

What meant for a Jew the destruction of the Temple?

1) prima facie, to be not more able to do sacrifice in Temple. A technical inability. Not really grave. 2) secunda facie, in the light of the great disasters that followed in 115-117 CE and in 135 CE : no longer be able to obey God. A contradiction raised in Judaism, with the risk of threatening its...
by Giuseppe
Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why the Jews killed Jesus?
Replies: 7
Views: 6218

Re: Why the Jews killed Jesus?

You are proposing a literalist reading, not exactly that meant in my title of thread.
by Giuseppe
Sun May 31, 2015 11:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why was invented Paul?
Replies: 81
Views: 47230

Why was invented Paul?

I would propose an alternative mythicist scenario than that decisively more clear and at moment more plausible named for brevity ''Doherty-Carrier'' (I don't like seem dogmatic, therefore I excuse me in advance if not use the conditional in following, and I apologize for my bad English). The idea: t...
by Giuseppe
Sat May 30, 2015 10:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why the Jews killed Jesus?
Replies: 7
Views: 6218

Re: Why the Jews killed Jesus?

if we had have in the first Gospel the embarrassment of a Jesus seditious or however also only the desire to realize his kingdom on this earth , albeit invisibly, then Jesus would be possibly historical. But if Mcn was the oldest gospel, then the embarrassment, in later gospels, of a seditious Jesus...
by Giuseppe
Fri May 29, 2015 8:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why the Jews killed Jesus?
Replies: 7
Views: 6218

Re: Why the Jews killed Jesus?

Objectively, the Jesus of Mcn is the more pure and innocent entity that could ever have been conceived in the history of Humanity. In Nietzschean terms, behind any myth of innocence there is always a Will to Power, but the unique Will to Power that I am able to see in this case is only the radical c...
by Giuseppe
Thu May 28, 2015 11:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Markus Vinzent's claim about Marcion
Replies: 52
Views: 24126

Re: Markus Vinzent's claim about Marcion

There was no John the Baptist narrative in the Gospel of Marcion but all our canonical gospels have it. About John the Baptist in Mcn, I signal this: http://sgwau2cbeginnings.blogspot.it/2015/03/john-baptist-from-marcionite-to.html the narrators of Luke, Marcion or Ur-Luke do not understand the sat...
by Giuseppe
Thu May 28, 2015 10:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Markus Vinzent's claim about Marcion
Replies: 52
Views: 24126

Re: Markus Vinzent's claim about Marcion

I know another 'little one' and he was no named John, even if he was named Paraclete. :)
by Giuseppe
Thu May 28, 2015 9:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: About a messianic prophecy from the Sibylline Oracles. . .
Replies: 55
Views: 39744

Re: About a messianic prophecy from the Sibylline Oracles. .

I think to understand where you would like come up. To the conclusion that the docetists were represented by Catholics as if they were dangerous criminals ''deniers'' of the one true God - Satanists - when in fact those docetists held views more accommodating and less radical, less anti-Semitic, ind...
by Giuseppe
Thu May 28, 2015 8:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: About a messianic prophecy from the Sibylline Oracles. . .
Replies: 55
Views: 39744

Re: About a messianic prophecy from the Sibylline Oracles. .

Even assuming this your view, you cannot negate that in Mcn the enemy is clearly the god creator of Jews. And that ''man of war'', as you translates this suggestive Eesh, is a name too gravitating around anti-roman messianism, just like ''YHWH saves'', if not more than it. Personally, if I was a mar...
by Giuseppe
Thu May 28, 2015 1:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: About a messianic prophecy from the Sibylline Oracles. . .
Replies: 55
Views: 39744

Re: About a messianic prophecy from the Sibylline Oracles. .

I think having this conversation with you gave me a clue as to the myth that is at the heart of the gospel. If 'Jesus' is really Eesh - the man of war - why does he come to earth to be crucified? How is this victory? I think the context is the mass crucifixion of Jews in the lead up to the end of t...