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by Peter Kirby
Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What's Wrong With Mainstream Scholarship
Replies: 11
Views: 20982

Re: What's Wrong With Mainstream Scholarship

By the way, something I've noticed lately is that there are one too many Pauline epistles. Ignoring the pastorals, the Marcionite canon has 8 recipients: Ephesians Romans Corinthians Thessalonians Philippians Colossians Philemon Galatians On analogy with the Ignatian corpus, where the epistle to Pol...
by Peter Kirby
Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:12 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: A Table of Christological Titles in Early Christian Writings
Replies: 17
Views: 31869

Re: A Table of Christological Titles in Early Christian Writ

To be really useful, the table would have to provide more detail (such as number of occurrences). I disagree. I hardly even see the point of doing that. The use of the table is that it allows one to know which primary sources to look at (in the original languages for those who can) when talking abo...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen's Understanding of the New Testament
Replies: 17
Views: 28991

Re: Origen's Understanding of the New Testament

No offense intended, and I know you view this as relevant to the discussion over Pauline authenticity (and it may be), but we have a thread going for this.
by Peter Kirby
Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen's Understanding of the New Testament
Replies: 17
Views: 28991

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

The last line underlined from Origen appears to argue why the books beyond the first 4 (Mt, Mk, Lk, Jn) should be considered truly as Gospel, even if they are not called out as Gospel typically as these four are, in answer to the objection immediately preceding, "it might be objected that the E...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What You Do To Peter You Must Do To Paul: the forgery question
Replies: 60
Views: 99360

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

Here a review of Detering's views on Paul by JPH. . . His case against Pauline authenticity is a failure, and shall remain so. Hermann Detering's Falsified Paul: A Critique "Now even the worst of 'liberal' critics like Crossan and Mack do not even go this far." - JPH Without double negati...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What You Do To Peter You Must Do To Paul: the forgery question
Replies: 60
Views: 99360

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

We're talking at cross purposes, apparently because what I actually said above is misunderstood. That's fine. I don't see that we actually disagree on anything important, so I don't see the point of arguing further. About the Pauline letters and whether they are authentic, I have posted something re...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What You Do To Peter You Must Do To Paul: the forgery question
Replies: 60
Views: 99360

Re: authorship of the Pauline epistles

What evidence is there that we actually have "authentic" or "genuine" epistles of Paul? What evidence is there that the NT figure of Paul was a real flesh and blood figure? Surely, that is the first step in this investigation? It is only when that issue is established that the q...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in Egypt
Replies: 59
Views: 114489

Re: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in E

Revelation 11:8 says, "Their corpses will lie in the main street of the great city, which has the symbolic names 'Sodom' and 'Egypt,' where indeed their Lord was crucified." The Jerome Biblical Commentary, vol. 2, p. 481, states: "the great city: This expression is constantly used in ...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What You Do To Peter You Must Do To Paul: the forgery question
Replies: 60
Views: 99360

Re: authorship of the Pauline epistles

What evidence is there that we actually have "authentic" or "genuine" epistles of Paul?