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by Joseph D. L.
Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Could the nomina sacra denote the presence of Jesus?
Replies: 10
Views: 357

Could the nomina sacra denote the presence of Jesus?

Not sure if anyone here has this book https://www.amazon.com/YHWHs-Divine-Images-Cognitive-Approach/dp/162837439X the author did an interview with Mythvision podcast a couple years ago which I recently rewatched, and with all the talk around the nomina sacra I wanted to put up a thought for consider...
by Joseph D. L.
Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Toccata and fugue as the principal fossil of a celestial crucifixion
Replies: 5
Views: 205

Re: Toccata and fugue as the principal fossil of a celestial crucifixion

I hate to be pedantic about this, but I still maintain my hesitancy with latching onto a deeper meaning with the crucifixion. (Being crucified to it, as it were.) I will admit that for years I saw this as the easiest slam dunk against historicism because the cross as a symbol of life renewed and &qu...
by Joseph D. L.
Sat Mar 02, 2024 3:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Toccata and fugue as the principal fossil of a celestial crucifixion
Replies: 5
Views: 205

Re: Toccata and fugue as the principal fossil of a celestial crucifixion

I have a question, Giuseppe. Why would crucifixion be the method used for the celestial Christ's death?

There is of course astronomical and philosophical considerations, but why did these early adopters or creators need it to be crucifixion?
by Joseph D. L.
Sat Mar 02, 2024 3:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Toccata and fugue as the principal fossil of a celestial crucifixion
Replies: 5
Views: 205

Re: Toccata and fugue as the principal fossil of a celestial crucifixion

I can accept an allegorical Jesus ex doceticism being the original foundation. A word for a moment, a docetic reading would imply to me an earlier belief that was not docetic. It just doesn't daisy chain together for doceticism to be the view of Jesus's earthly appearance. The text mentioned, the ur...
by Joseph D. L.
Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Can We At Least Agree that the Marcionites Did Not Call Jesus "Christ"?
Replies: 25
Views: 801

Re: Can We At Least Agree that the Marcionites Did Not Call Jesus "Christ"?

Joseph, this is really ridiculous. Every day several Marcion threads are opened in this forum, the starting point of which is exactly the opposite. This forum has now become the Marcionite Speculations Forum. Sinouhe is right: some people here are really obsessed with Marcion. Not for StephenGorans...
by Joseph D. L.
Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Can We At Least Agree that the Marcionites Did Not Call Jesus "Christ"?
Replies: 25
Views: 801

Re: Can We At Least Agree that the Marcionites Did Not Call Jesus "Christ"?

Why must it be assumed Marcion revered Luke? Why must this always be a starting point? Prior to Irenaeus this Lucan connection never came up. Justin: Luke? Never heard of him. Papias: Luke? Who's that? Polycarp: Luke? Look at what? Hegesippus: Luke? I think my friend Theophilus knows him. No one kno...
by Joseph D. L.
Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
Replies: 214
Views: 6415

Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark

I don't want to dwell on this for too long since that is a habit I am trying not to repeat. I will concede the more direct reading is spurious and stick with the mainstream one in which I don't really have anything more to say about that. From a base reading it seems to indicate to me that the Odes ...
by Joseph D. L.
Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
Replies: 214
Views: 6415

Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark

The egyptians got ritually drunk if i remember as well? some festival or other Yes. Specifically it was to be imbued with the Ka of the Osiris/ntr. Not quit the intoxicating reverie of the Dionysian mystery. With the Odes, keep in mind: the flood is destructive it turns to the Temple (one translati...
by Joseph D. L.
Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
Replies: 214
Views: 6415

Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark

Maybe. The Odes have both positive and negative drunkenness There might be something there. I have speculated that the Odes were an inspiration to the Johannine theology with the Temple being washed away in a divine torrent. Jesus's miracle with the water turning to wine might add to the symbolism....