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John T wrote (re: Stephan's points): So, if there is anyone left here that wants to have a serious conversation about Alias claim that the gospel is really founded on points 1. and 2., then let's have it. I think both of those points are valid. Stephan already cited the Philippians Hymn. If you need...

DC wrote: I think that what Eusebius quotes as the words of Hegesippus in EH 2.23.8 is not from H's five volumes of Memoirs, as he refers to his Memoirs as if a different work, one that enumerates all the sects of the Jews (Sadducees and Pharisees qualify). The account in EH 2.23.12-13 may be from h...

It is not necessary my quote of Hippolitus to realize that "the gate of Jesus is the Saviour" implies that the "Saviour": 1) is not God; 2) is a distinct being from "Jesus". Probably Christ. But James doesn't say "it" (i.e., the gate) is the Savior, he says &...

Regarding the part Giuseppe mentioned in the OP, while it does strike me as being more ambivalent, I would guess that James' answer there pertains only to Jesus rather than to the door (or gate), and in any event it too is in keeping with the Letter of James and Revelation above. Hegesippus in EH 2....

I think it's the door (or doors) of heaven through which Jesus went after his resurrection and will go through again (and others will go through) when he "comes on the clouds of heaven," in keeping (as things in Hegesippus tend to be) with the Letter of James and Revelation. James 5:7-9: B...

They're back! John Mayer is well again and the spirit is back! Just what I needed. Starts about 9:30 and really cooks by 16:00.
"Tell me the cost, I can pay, let me go, tell me love is not lost."





Wow. Alpine Valley 6/22/18 (show opener). Starts about 23:00.

That was quite a deflection. So I'll keep this focused. I wrote: Additionally, I think it would be useful to look at the way our earliest known interpreters of Mark understood v. 13.12 in its context: Luke 21.12-18: “But before all this occurs, they will arrest you and persecute you; they will hand...

Alright, I have some time. In the big picture, I'm seeing that the other elements of Mark 13 seem applicable to the Fourth Philosophy and the situation in Judea pre-70 CE, so I'm having trouble accepting that the element of brother betraying brother to death, etc. would apply to a post-70 CE situati...

Ken,

Thank you for the thorough response. I'm still giving it some thought and will get back to you.

Hence the question: why was the Galilee so important? What was happening really there? Because that is where Jesus is said to have come from, like (other) Fourth Philosophers. Take Josephus' account of the conversion of Izates in Ant. 20, for example. He too, like Gentile Christians, contended with...