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by John2
Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: When/what is the End of Days?
Replies: 139
Views: 55206

Re: When/what is the End of Days?

Well, that's a tall order for something that's really only tangential to the subject of this thread. I can tell you more briefly that even Eisenman agrees that Acts is mostly fiction. First, the Book of Acts cannot be considered a historical presentation. There is too much mythologizing, too much th...
by John2
Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: When/what is the End of Days?
Replies: 139
Views: 55206

Re: When/what is the End of Days?

See also Doering, "4QMMT and the Letters of Paul": It is my suggestion that the letters of Paul can in turn illuminate aspects of the genre of MMT and the text's early reception. https://books.google.com/books?id=4URWAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA69&dq=doering+4QMMT+and+the+letters+of+paul+became+...
by John2
Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: When/what is the End of Days?
Replies: 139
Views: 55206

Re: When/what is the End of Days?

Beyond the overall similarity between MMT and Luke-Acts it is interesting to note that what is planned after the meeting in Jerusalem described in Acts 15 is the writing of a letter informing the recipients of the decisions made; perhaps MMT is best understood not as a letter authorized by an indiv...
by John2
Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: When/what is the End of Days?
Replies: 139
Views: 55206

Re: When/what is the End of Days?

One other thing about MMT and the letter in Acts 15. Both letters were written by "we": And finally, we wrote you about some of the works of the Law, which we reckoned for your own good and for that of your people, for we see that you possess discernment and knowledge of the Torah. Conside...
by John2
Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: When/what is the End of Days?
Replies: 139
Views: 55206

Re: When/what is the End of Days?

http://referenceworks.brillonline.com/entries/encyclopedia-of-hebrew-language-and-linguistics/miqsat-maase-ha-torah-4qmmt-EHLL_COM_00000675?s.num=3 http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rak/courses/427/texts/4QMMT.htm I also linked to Eisenman and Wise's translation earlier (and it has the Hebrew). http://www.b...
by John2
Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: When/what is the End of Days?
Replies: 139
Views: 55206

Re: When/what is the End of Days?

To get back to the subject of the End of Days, like in Daniel 9, MMT associates it with the blessings and curses in the Torah. And we recognize that some of the blessings and curses have come, those written in the Bo[ok of Moses; therefore this is the End of Days, when (those) in Isra[e]l are to ret...
by John2
Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: When/what is the End of Days?
Replies: 139
Views: 55206

Re: When/what is the End of Days?

Regarding what MMT says, in addition to discussing sacrifices, gentile sacrifice, food sacrificed to idols and fornication (could there be a better summarization of this than Acts 15?), and the use of an expression similar to what James and Paul use regarding Abraham's faith being "reckoned to ...
by John2
Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: When/what is the End of Days?
Replies: 139
Views: 55206

Re: When/what is the End of Days?

Regarding carbon dating in general and the DSS, Magness writes: A type of radiocarbon dating called accelerator mass spectrometer (AMS) has the advantage of being the only "scientific" method listed here (in other words, the date is provided by a laboratory). However, it has the disadvanta...
by John2
Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: When/what is the End of Days?
Replies: 139
Views: 55206

Re: When/what is the End of Days?

Stephan wrote: The idea that the C-14 dating doesn't disqualify this silly thread requires some explanation on the part of John2. I have explained this before, years ago, even. There are too many variables to be certain of carbon dating anything. It more or less gives you a rough idea, give or take....
by John2
Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: When/what is the End of Days?
Replies: 139
Views: 55206

Re: When/what is the End of Days?

Regarding the issue of gentile sacrifice and eating food sacrificed to idols in MMT, not only was this an issue in the first century CE, it should be noted that MMT appears to be a letter (like the letter concerning gentiles -including the issue of food sacrificed to idols- that was sent out by Jewi...