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by austendw
Sat May 06, 2023 3:41 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Creation of a Classical Historian
Replies: 92
Views: 6346

Re: Plato and the Creation of a Classical Historian

andrewcriddle wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 2:18 am Our choice is probably between a passage in post-exilic Hebrew with a Greek loan-word or a passage in pre-exilic Hebrew using an archaic and otherwise unexampled root.
I'm certainly cool with that.
by austendw
Sat May 06, 2023 3:39 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Creation of a Classical Historian
Replies: 92
Views: 6346

Re: Plato and the Creation of a Classical Historian

But before Gmirkinites (you should pardon the neologism) get too excited about this ... If I were to identify as a Gmirkinite do you identify as a Wellhausenite ? (pardon the neologism) What other hypothetical solutionites occupy the theory space and how are they represented in it by volume (of sch...
by austendw
Fri May 05, 2023 11:38 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: What Level of Proficiency in Hebrew Do You Have to Have to Pull off the Gmirkin Alexandrian Library Argument?
Replies: 14
Views: 1390

Re: What Level of Proficiency in Hebrew Do You Have to Have to Pull off the Gmirkin Alexandrian Library Argument?

There is nothing wrong per se with translating λεγόμενα , literally “things that have been said,” with the phrase “current talk.” I would have to look at the context in Greek, which I don’t have before me. Now thus far he followed his ancient records; but after this he permits himself, in order to ...
by austendw
Fri May 05, 2023 3:58 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Creation of a Classical Historian
Replies: 92
Views: 6346

Re: Plato and the Creation of a Classical Historian

And then there is the second question. If the Greek and Hebrew texts of the Pentateuch were really written by the same people why do differences emerge in Genesis 49:5-7 where, allegedly the library visitors wrote one thing in the MT but not the Samaritan and the LXX. Even if the terminology is &qu...
by austendw
Fri May 05, 2023 1:04 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: The Problem With The Theory That the Pentateuch Was Written in Alexandria
Replies: 161
Views: 15839

Re: The Problem With The Theory That the Pentateuch Was Written in Alexandria

There clearly are parallels between Greek sources and the Pentateuch. It is much less clear how far they involve knowledge of Greek texts by the authors of the Pentateuch. As distinct from the use of common sources or the fact that both are products of ancient Eastern Mediterranean societies with s...
by austendw
Thu May 04, 2023 1:34 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: What Level of Proficiency in Hebrew Do You Have to Have to Pull off the Gmirkin Alexandrian Library Argument?
Replies: 14
Views: 1390

Re: What Level of Proficiency in Hebrew Do You Have to Have to Pull off the Gmirkin Alexandrian Library Argument?

I’m not sure how much Gmirkin knows of Greek or Hebrew, and it's idle for me to speculate. But when I was re-reading Berossus and Genesis, Manetho and Exodus: Hellenistic Histories and the Date of the Pentateuch the other day, the issue of a text in its original language reared its ugly head. In tha...
by austendw
Thu May 04, 2023 9:12 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Creation of a Classical Historian
Replies: 92
Views: 6346

Re: Plato and the Creation of a Classical Historian

In any case, there seems no doubt that the Hebrew is a loan-word from the Greek, being the name of a particular, single edged sword. But before Gmirkinites (you should pardon the neologism) get too excited about this, a quick google shows that the makhaira was an extremely popular weapon used by th...
by austendw
Thu May 04, 2023 8:21 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?
Replies: 71
Views: 6199

Re: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?

Gmirkin is ... arguing on the basis of what we do have evidence for, in our current state of play. Hence he continues with, "and the criticism of the Aaronid line suggests...." --- that is, on one hand we have no evidence against; but we do have evidence for. Hence, the reasonable model t...
by austendw
Wed May 03, 2023 11:43 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?
Replies: 71
Views: 6199

Re: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?

Ben was great to have at the table for his knowledge and civility. For me it was like having an extra and much smarter head. Well, that's very kind, thank you (and I genuinely wasn't sure whether it was a compliment or not). But I'm afraid I've blown the comparison already, by wrangling with Neil G...
by austendw
Wed May 03, 2023 11:38 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?
Replies: 71
Views: 6199

Re: The Old Testament - A Hellenistic Book?

Neither Davies nor Gmirkin nor Lemche discounts the textual inconsistencies and breaks and oddities that are noticed in the biblical writings. It is not as though the questions raised by the Documentary Hypothesis are thrown out. But the interpretations, explanations for those textual questions are...