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- Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:21 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What do we know about the revenue / expenditures of early churches?
- Replies: 9
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Re: What do we know about the revenue / expenditures of early churches?
What were their primary means of revenue (donations from individual rich donors versus average “member” collections)? What percentage of the revenue went where? This I am really interested in: what percent went to expensive incense and oil, what percent to feasts, what percent to aiding the poor, w...
- Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:26 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1084
Re: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
To my untrained eye, the Syriac versions seem to be summaries of sections of the shorter Greek recension. I am not afraid of being shown the error of my ways, though. Do you have a feel for if the shorter Syriac leters of Ignatius refer to the Pauline Epistles in a way that is above and beyond what...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:37 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1084
Re: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
Here is that last one. The ET of the Syriac was already in the Romans epistle file, but here at least you can see what the the rest of the shorter & longer Greek recensions have to say. (Ignatius) Trallians (ETs of shorter & longer Greek & Syriac fragment, compared).pdf To my unt...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:34 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1084
Re: The Short Recension of Three Letters of Ignatius
In days past (2015), whilst I was busy with my comparison of the Longer and Shorter (aka "Middle") Greek recensions of epistles where both shorter and longer Greek existed, I did compare them to the ANF version of Cureton's epistles. Interesting thing was, there are only three actual Syria...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:31 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
- Replies: 96
- Views: 16999
Re: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
William R. Schoedel suggests that Ignatius had difficulty refuting his opponents solely from the OT ( Ignatius of Antioch , p. 209): ... it is still a challenge to the bishop's assertion that he can find what he wants in the OT. Evidently he was having difficulty in establishing his point from that...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:03 pm
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: Pliny on the Essenes
- Replies: 8
- Views: 6734
Re: Pliny on the Essenes
Sources on Essenes are gathered in Antike Berichte über die Essener ausgew. von Alfred Adam. Adam, Alfred, 1899-1975 Berlin, New York : de Gruyter, 1972. Edition A:2., neubearb. u. erw. Aufl. / von Christoph Burchard. Greek or Latin, with editorial matter in German Suggested additional sources in m...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:59 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
- Replies: 96
- Views: 16999
Re: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
Hey Joseph, Glad to see you back! I think what Giuseppe has in mind is this passage in The Epistle to the Tarsians: Chapter III.—The true doctrine respecting Christ. Mindful of him, do ye by all means know that Jesus the Lord was truly born of Mary , being made of a woman; and was as truly crucifie...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:43 pm
- Forum: Jewish Texts and History
- Topic: Pliny on the Essenes
- Replies: 8
- Views: 6734
Added 3rd Philo source to citations about Judean sects
Well, I hate to add to perfection itself (uh huh) but I was formerly relying on De Jonge for my Philo citations. De Jonge does not include a translation of a work of Philo known as Hypothetica (aka Apology for the Jews), as this is preserved only as a citation of Philo in Preparation for the Gospel....
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:00 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
- Replies: 96
- Views: 16999
Re: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
Part of my problem is that I do not read Carrier, at all. Someone had cited the letter to the Tarsians in an earlier post, so I thought that might be it. According to my analysis of this epistle (posted several years ago) to the Philadelphians: 8.2) And I exhort you to do nothing out of strife, but ...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:31 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
- Replies: 96
- Views: 16999
Re: Further evidence that Ignatius faced old deniers of the historicity of Jesus
Hey Joseph, Glad to see you back! I think what Giuseppe has in mind is this passage in The Epistle to the Tarsians: Chapter III.—The true doctrine respecting Christ. Mindful of him, do ye by all means know that Jesus the Lord was truly born of Mary , being made of a woman; and was as truly crucified...